the lowest weekly sales were 50k with just 13 launch territories and only 1 and 1/2 skus avaialble

ofc the 2015 baseline will be higher. even in the worst possible way the tier 2 countries would increase the baseline by 5k units

500 japan sales

200 russia

1k tier 2 europe

300 row tier 2

3k china sales (btw ms and the chinese partner expect 1m first year sales (lets take off the launch sales and holiday + other bumps)

that would leave 500k units / 52 weeks = 9,6k each week. ms does not even achive 30% of theire forecast to increase the baseline by 3k units just form china sales

this doenst even take more skus, more games, more last gen owner upgrade and other suff into account.

if we see a real pricecut the baseline will become bigger ofc

Are you sure ? I think i remember some weeks around 40k .

Yes i checked, it even went under 40k and lowest is 34k, from April end to June and during August, the baseline went few times under 50k. Only the big releases increase the baseline for few weeks, that's why i say there are big chances it go back to 50-60k when there is no big game, which would be better than the 30-40k before the price cut and 40-50k before the big releases and new countries.

yes, but that was not the baseline

that was the "ohh we will realse a new sku in 2 weeks. dont buy our current ones anymore"  week or weeks

the xb1 sold 77k units in the us that month. it was an unusual drop

baseline over junte - august was pretty much 50k

Quote trees, please, preserve the rainforest!

Yes, thanks to the price cut, without, it would have continue to sell around 40-50k in a normal week without big release effect or price cut effect, and even after the price cut, it was going back to the low usual numbers but madden came before that fortunately, that's why i say without a price cut and new big releases each week,  it will go down that much,  but i still add 10k to the baseline thanks to new countries.

PS4 is the new PS2.

Well yahh no reason why you wouldnt.  Your xbox favoritism is really passed any sense of logic.

rofl. no! it passes any sense of logic to NOT expect yoy growth for the second year of ANY console.

even the wiiu did that

now pls stop that fanboy talk bullshit

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I think he read your post as normally it's around 50% but could be less, but in X1 case it will be 50% because they have the best 3rd party support (which he may think is untrue and seeing most MP better on PS4 and 3rd better in X1 only when they pay for exclusivity, and even so having less games in total) he assumed you were being fanboy (which you assumed) but you are smarter and more open than most. You preffer MS, you bias in favour of them, but you don't deny reality. You are like reality would be PS4 selling 18M and X1 8M by the end of 2014 but some time ago you would predict PS4 15M and X1 10M (you know PS4 would sell quite better, but still gave more props to MS and that is fine)... I don't see you as a "toxic" fanboy or anything like that... he exagerated.

I'm certain the X1 will sell 95% more next year.