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Hynad on 24 October 2014
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Those weren't GCN's only advantages; notably, it also had a significant upper hand in multitexturing, allowing for much more extensive of other surface shaders besides bumpmapping. This is how we got GCN games that threw around tons of textures layers at once; not just bump maps, but gloss maps, specular maps, dirt maps, detail maps...

The Burnout games on the PS2 featured both gloss maps and specular highlights too. Dirt maps can be baked into the textures so I'm not sure what the advantage is when almost every platform that supports textures can do it too ... 

"Detail maps" is another form of bump mapping ...

I didn't say PS2 couldn't do gloss or specular maps, it can, but its more limited multitexturing ability means it can't employ effects that use this technique as extensively as GCN can.

And detail mapping isn't necessarily bumpmapping; it's another texture scaled differently to make a surface appear more detailed up close.


Topic of the thread: 

Is this Gen of Consoles just WEAK?



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curl-6 on 24 October 2014
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

I didn't say PS2 couldn't do gloss or specular maps, it can, but its more limited multitexturing ability means it can't employ effects that use this technique as extensively as GCN can.

And detail mapping isn't necessarily bumpmapping; it's another texture scaled differently to make a surface appear more detailed up close.

Sorry, I read that as the "GC can do gloss maps and specular maps compared to the PS2" ... With that being said you wouldn't mind showing or pointing me to some GC games that do these things, right ? 

Deku Toad in Twilight Princess comes to mind, also a good example of EMBM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puj6FH24BH8



ninjaman003 on 24 October 2014
SvennoJ said:
ninjaman003 said:
I didn't know where to ask this, but how/can you post pictures

You can't directly post pictures. You can upload a picture to www.picpar.com for example then link it by clicking the picture icon (in a rich text reply or quote) and copy paste the url in the box that comes up.

That's a bit too much trouble for me. I'll be fine.



HoloDust on 24 October 2014
ninjaman003 said:
SvennoJ said:
ninjaman003 said:
I didn't know where to ask this, but how/can you post pictures

You can't directly post pictures. You can upload a picture to www.picpar.com for example then link it by clicking the picture icon (in a rich text reply or quote) and copy paste the url in the box that comes up.

That's a bit too much trouble for me. I'll be fine.

That is if you want to post your pic, you have to upload it to some server first.

If you want to just post pic from somehwere else, then it's

square bracket img square bracket link of pic here square bracket slash img square bracket



Landguy on 24 October 2014
Hynad said:
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Those weren't GCN's only advantages; notably, it also had a significant upper hand in multitexturing, allowing for much more extensive of other surface shaders besides bumpmapping. This is how we got GCN games that threw around tons of textures layers at once; not just bump maps, but gloss maps, specular maps, dirt maps, detail maps...

The Burnout games on the PS2 featured both gloss maps and specular highlights too. Dirt maps can be baked into the textures so I'm not sure what the advantage is when almost every platform that supports textures can do it too ... 

"Detail maps" is another form of bump mapping ...

I didn't say PS2 couldn't do gloss or specular maps, it can, but its more limited multitexturing ability means it can't employ effects that use this technique as extensively as GCN can.

And detail mapping isn't necessarily bumpmapping; it's another texture scaled differently to make a surface appear more detailed up close.


Topic of the thread: 

Is this Gen of Consoles just WEAK?


Agreed, complete derail.  THey could easily just PM each other....



It is near the end of the end....

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Necromunda on 24 October 2014

Drake thinks the PS4 is fine at least and this thread is making him fall asleep :3



curl-6 on 24 October 2014

Hell, these graphics are good enough for me:



ninjaman003 on 24 October 2014
HoloDust said:
ninjaman003 said:
SvennoJ said:
ninjaman003 said:
I didn't know where to ask this, but how/can you post pictures

You can't directly post pictures. You can upload a picture to www.picpar.com for example then link it by clicking the picture icon (in a rich text reply or quote) and copy paste the url in the box that comes up.

That's a bit too much trouble for me. I'll be fine.

That is if you want to post your pic, you have to upload it to some server first.

If you want to just post pic from somehwere else, then it's

square bracket img square bracket link of pic here square bracket slash img square bracket

thanks