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Nem said:


I love how you say "how would you know". How would you know? It goes both ways you know. My logic is sound. You can't deny it since you dont know and legend of Korra is a small game. The thing here is we have no idea how they are shuffling their resources internally in terms of programming, but we can tell what is announced with are producers and directors.

It really doesn't when one side has a lack of evidence ...

The Legend of Korra is a smaller game but that doesn't mean it can't take an appreciable amount of staff.

What we do know is that Platinum Games was recently fully occupied by games other than Scalebound. A Microsoft funded AAA game often has a staff of around 200 people so it's pretty obvious that what was even left of Platinum Games at the time was too small to take on a big project such as Scalebound ... 



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fatslob-:O said:
Nem said:


I love how you say "how would you know". How would you know? It goes both ways you know. My logic is sound. You can't deny it since you dont know and legend of Korra is a small game. The thing here is we have no idea how they are shuffling their resources internally in terms of programming, but we can tell what is announced with are producers and directors.

It really doesn't when one side has a lack of evidence ...

The Legend of Korra is a smaller game but that doesn't mean it can't take an appreciable amount of staff.

What we do know is that Platinum Games was recently fully occupied by games other than Scalebound. A Microsoft funded AAA game often has a staff of around 200 people so it's pretty obvious that what was even left of Platinum Games at the time was too small to take on a big project such as Scalebound ... 


Ok, you seem to be going in circles. We will have to just disagree.



BraveNewWorld said:
zorg1000 said:
obviously Madmen Football isn't it but I do believe Nintendo needs their own line of sports games. Not Mario Sports and not like EA Sports but a middle ground between the two. Something with a mix of realistic & cartooney graphics and a mix of the two styles of gameplay. they follow the rules of the sports but players have special power ups and whatnot.

not meant as a competitor to EA Sports but rather a substitute to them for people who don't want hyper realistic sports games and don't want Mario in every game. make them relatively cheap ($29.99) and release 1-2 sports per year so the console has all the major sports by the end of its life. football, baseball, soccer, basketball, golf, boxing, tennis

Nintendo should get their hands on NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, 3 on 3 NHL Arcade, and The Bigs IPs.

EA has the rights to Blitz, Jam, and NHL Arcade. 2K has the rights to The Bigs.

Nintendo already has soccer covered with Mario strikers.

and ninty pocket club. - eshop 3ds lol



The sad thing is, Nintendo has started to let some real junk on the eshop recently

It is one thing to have some bad games released but some of the more recent releases bored on plain scams- it is as if these scammers have found a new "mark" in the eshop without near the competition of the I-store - honestly I don t think games like The Letter and Little Red Riding Hood would even be allowed on the I store

The same dev that made the mostly broken Brick Breaker (or something like that) is the guy now marketing the Minecraft clone- If anyone read the mii verse comments and reviews about his current game they would. Or get excited about his clone - the dev them cola I ed publicly about his well deserved poor review scores

People might think it is no big deal but these "scam games" divert dollars away from the legit indies putting in a real effort, they create more clutter to need to avoid to find the legit games and they also cause people that want to support the indies to loose trust when they purchase such garbage- they are less likely to take a risk the next time

I remember this AE guy from before - I could. It follow his pr today so I watched the video thinking it would clear his message- NO- neither the PR or video made any sense



mZuzek said:
Dunban67 said:
The sad thing is, Nintendo has started to let some real junk on the eshop recently

It is one thing to have some bad games released but some of the more recent releases bored on plain scams- it is as if these scammers have found a new "mark" in the eshop without near the competition of the I-store - honestly I don t think games like The Letter and Little Red Riding Hood would even be allowed on the I store

The same dev that made the mostly broken Brick Breaker (or something like that) is the guy now marketing the Minecraft clone- If anyone read the mii verse comments and reviews about his current game they would. Or get excited about his clone - the dev them cola I ed publicly about his well deserved poor review scores

People might think it is no big deal but these "scam games" divert dollars away from the legit indies putting in a real effort, they create more clutter to need to avoid to find the legit games and they also cause people that want to support the indies to loose trust when they purchase such garbage- they are less likely to take a risk the next time

I remember this AE guy from before - I could. It follow his pr today so I watched the video thinking it would clear his message- NO- neither the PR or video made any sense

As sad as it is that the eShop has been getting so much crap recently, I do think it's not that big of a deal, because they do a great job of not showcasing the garbage games.



I disagree they showcase those games as much as any other eshop game- they all have mii verse communities, they all get to have some time on the main mii verse hub - they are in no way treated less than or different from all but a few indie games If Nintendo was going to hide these games they would not let them on the eshop in the 1st place - the dev s of these games get verifies user status on Mi verse and they are often active in the communities trying to peddle their junk

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Dunban67 said:
mZuzek said:
Dunban67 said:
The sad thing is, Nintendo has started to let some real junk on the eshop recently

It is one thing to have some bad games released but some of the more recent releases bored on plain scams- it is as if these scammers have found a new "mark" in the eshop without near the competition of the I-store - honestly I don t think games like The Letter and Little Red Riding Hood would even be allowed on the I store

The same dev that made the mostly broken Brick Breaker (or something like that) is the guy now marketing the Minecraft clone- If anyone read the mii verse comments and reviews about his current game they would. Or get excited about his clone - the dev them cola I ed publicly about his well deserved poor review scores

People might think it is no big deal but these "scam games" divert dollars away from the legit indies putting in a real effort, they create more clutter to need to avoid to find the legit games and they also cause people that want to support the indies to loose trust when they purchase such garbage- they are less likely to take a risk the next time

I remember this AE guy from before - I could. It follow his pr today so I watched the video thinking it would clear his message- NO- neither the PR or video made any sense

As sad as it is that the eShop has been getting so much crap recently, I do think it's not that big of a deal, because they do a great job of not showcasing the garbage games.



I disagree they showcase those games as much as any other eshop game- they all have mii verse communities, they all get to have some time on the main mii verse hub - they are in no way treated less than or different from all but a few indie games If Nintendo was going to hide these games they would not let them on the eshop in the 1st place - the dev s of these games get verifies user status on Mi verse and they are often active in the communities trying to peddle their junk


But not all of them show off in the eshop front page. Its hard because there is not a great stream of quality games, so they cannot put the good games in front.

 

But one things has bothered me for some time now: why games like minecrat, limbo, braid, and many other still doesn't show up? Were is the walking dead, and many others well recivied indie games? Its odd for me, because sucessfull games from 2013, like gone home and the swapper, and even guacamelle are here, but the olders didn't issue any plans, it seem only "new" indie developers are trying to support, while "old" indies continue to ignore, even after some so much sucess from games like shovel knigth.



"Hardware design isn’t about making the most powerful thing you can.
Today most hardware design is left to other companies, but when you make hardware without taking into account the needs of the eventual software developers, you end up with bloated hardware full of pointless excess. From the outset one must consider design from both a hardware and software perspective."

Gunpei Yoko

Thank you third party for sueing Nintendo decades ago so their SEAL OF QUALITY became so useless and ended up just as a redundant "sticker" its so useless that not even Nintendos own eshop has a reason to implement it anymore.




looks about as good as Madden




 

justiceiro said:
Dunban67 said:
mZuzek said:
Dunban67 said:
The sad thing is, Nintendo has started to let some real junk on the eshop recently

It is one thing to have some bad games released but some of the more recent releases bored on plain scams- it is as if these scammers have found a new "mark" in the eshop without near the competition of the I-store - honestly I don t think games like The Letter and Little Red Riding Hood would even be allowed on the I store

The same dev that made the mostly broken Brick Breaker (or something like that) is the guy now marketing the Minecraft clone- If anyone read the mii verse comments and reviews about his current game they would. Or get excited about his clone - the dev them cola I ed publicly about his well deserved poor review scores

People might think it is no big deal but these "scam games" divert dollars away from the legit indies putting in a real effort, they create more clutter to need to avoid to find the legit games and they also cause people that want to support the indies to loose trust when they purchase such garbage- they are less likely to take a risk the next time

I remember this AE guy from before - I could. It follow his pr today so I watched the video thinking it would clear his message- NO- neither the PR or video made any sense

As sad as it is that the eShop has been getting so much crap recently, I do think it's not that big of a deal, because they do a great job of not showcasing the garbage games.



I disagree they showcase those games as much as any other eshop game- they all have mii verse communities, they all get to have some time on the main mii verse hub - they are in no way treated less than or different from all but a few indie games If Nintendo was going to hide these games they would not let them on the eshop in the 1st place - the dev s of these games get verifies user status on Mi verse and they are often active in the communities trying to peddle their junk


But not all of them show off in the eshop front page. Its hard because there is not a great stream of quality games, so they cannot put the good games in front.

 

But one things has bothered me for some time now: why games like minecrat, limbo, braid, and many other still doesn't show up? Were is the walking dead, and many others well recivied indie games? Its odd for me, because sucessfull games from 2013, like gone home and the swapper, and even guacamelle are here, but the olders didn't issue any plans, it seem only "new" indie developers are trying to support, while "old" indies continue to ignore, even after some so much sucess from games like shovel knigth.


What you said- plus the agonizingly slow delivery of Vc games-   We should be getting lots of them plus GameCube and even Wii games on VC- instead we get 1 or maybe 2 almost random games for the VC-  I just never have had the feeling Nintendo put its nest effort into any aspect of the Wii u-