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Forums - Sales Discussion - IGN/Sony: 360,000 PS4's sold in Spain. 7:1 with Xbox One

Mother of god.... it's just a total slaughter and I won't be surprised if the same applies to all the other European countries that are not the UK.



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Aerys said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:

Well, by 2009

360 sold 675k  (one year more on market)

PS3 had sold 1.25m

Wii 2m

 

Shrinking market?  I think so.

 

Wait, you're comparing when the PS3 had ~3 ~2 years on the market to when the PS4 just had 1?  Why don't you wait til '16 before we actually compare the numbers.

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Obliteration.

shrinking market will always be the excuse to explain bad X1 sales in Europe i guess, the market is shrinking but yet, the PS4 is doing just like the PS3.

Sad, but true.  Even if there are a few markets shrinking, it's mostly due to bloated sales last gen because of the casuals Wii brought in and the late start for the PS3 (many switched to 360 and then either switched back or got both.)  There's also the fact that while some may seem smaller, there are other regions that were once much smaller that are making up for the difference.



Aerys said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Aerys said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Europe = sonyland!


Not like this.

 

X360 reached 25M in Europe, more than 1M in Spain.

 

Now, One will be very very lucky to even reach 5M in Europe and 100k in Spain

Exactly. They are going to face major contractions in the US and UK, and their install base in Europe and ROW is going to basically dissappear. It's why I don't see it hitting 50 million. At best it'll do 40 million lifetime.


Same prediction, 40M X1, 20M Wii U, 120M PS4 ( the gamers wont disappear, they'll just go on to ps4

My predictions say 70M for xbox one 100M for ps4 and 25M for wii U (sorry wii U but its true).



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Spain is a bigger market than gaming's saviour, China. Hopefully this will put things in perspective regarding China...

Anyway, fastest selling console ever in Spain. 7:1 is a bigger ratio than PS3:360 in Japan. 13:1 is just... yeah, the Xbox One is basically non-existent in Spain.



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From what I heard from friends in Spain both XB1 & Wii U have very little penetration there.



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super6646 said:
Aerys said:
wary-wallaroo said:

Exactly. They are going to face major contractions in the US and UK, and their install base in Europe and ROW is going to basically dissappear. It's why I don't see it hitting 50 million. At best it'll do 40 million lifetime.


Same prediction, 40M X1, 20M Wii U, 120M PS4 ( the gamers wont disappear, they'll just go on to ps4

My predictions say 70M for xbox one 100M for ps4 and 25M for wii U (sorry wii U but its true).

I have seen others predict 70M-80M for the One, but I just don't see it ever happening.  With the fight the PS4 is giving it in the US, the 360 will MAYBE be able to reach 30M, or ~14M less than what the 360 is right now.  Same goes for UK, so ~5M, or ~4M less than where the 360 is at right now.  It'll be lucky to reach 500K in Japan, ~1.2M less than the 360.  And with the One pretty much dead throughout the rest of EU, it'll be lucky to hit 10M outside of the UK.  This puts us at ~45.5M, so ~48M-50M WW when we factor in ROW.  Where exactly is that extra ~20M-30M in sales coming from?



ethomaz said:
kitler53 said:
not a very fair comparison. xbox is only out in 13 regions of spain while ps4 is in 70+.

Are there a Chinatown in Spain too?

Because seems like Xbone won NPD with the China's launch in US.


Geez now this was funny.

 

Anyway, Ethomaz so is it safe to say VG has Spain and Portugal undertracked in the 50k range. If so, this would tell us that they are indeed European markets where the 200kish sales are missing.



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Solid-Stark said:

Geez now this was funny.

 

Anyway, Ethomaz so is it safe to say VG has Spain and Portugal undertracked in the 50k range. If so, this would tell us that they are indeed European markets where the 200kish sales are missing.

From the guys early in this thread is safe to say it is undertracked at least 20-30k in Spain... it is yet undertracked ~250k WW if you have more 10 countries like Spain you can reach the right number and I believe others countries are undertracked in EU too.

Sad the info about that is so little that we will staty only in the guesses.



A slaughter is right. Lets just say the gamers have spoken in many a country like Spain. I live in Ireland and it's no joke when I say this I don't know anybody with an X1. I know plenty with a PS4 who have upgraded from PS3 and 360 alike. It's actually great because now friends are not divided between 2 consoles. We are united as one! (pun intented :P)

Now I'm sure somebody I know has actually got an X1 but lets just say it ain't a cool product here to brag about. Every second week someone else on facebook puts up a pic of their new ps4 and the amount of friends that enter those like and share facebook competitions to win a PS4 is actually annoying. Especially that must of them are scams but it just shows which is the console of choice here.