I'm not sure i understood your first comment.
Are you saying that, if Nintendo, or any other company, made the same game for both platforms, players would choose the superior version, as in, the home console version?
If that's what you meant, i don't think that would hurt Nintendo, it would actually help Nintendo sell one of the systems to people who don't want a Nintendo console.
What we have got until now is a mixed library of games: some games only come out on handhelds and other only on home consoles.

The new IPs would be made to attract audiences only found on XBox and PS. That would be the point of extending the genres that is capable of offering.
If they succeed in attracting non Nintendo gamers, 3rd parties would have a good reason to better support Nintendo as there would really be an audience for their games aswell.

honestly?! i dont know either. It seems people are desperatly trying to make the WII u sales look better than they are. Its time to just accept the fact that the sales arent good. Dont know why thats hard.

I see what you are trying to say, but Im still a little confused. People are naturally going to compare it to WIi because that was its predessecor, lets get real. There isnt anything wrong with that. People dont want to compare it now, because Wii U is doing so bad it would make it look worse and be honest did you really think Wii U would flop like this? coming off of the Wii? So yes lets say now in hindsight we shouldnt compare. 

But thats the whole thing of it is. Ninty consoles have been on the decline SINCE the NES. every system after that has fallen sans Wii. So if you dont compare Wii then it still dont look good. Determing whether its good or bad depending on what Ninty's average is is not accurate cause one could make the argument that there consoles DONT sell good anyway. I would compare it to industry sales and standards versus what is being bought at the time. You cant act like Ninty exist in a bubble.

It's doing bad for the fact it has a lot of games that fail to sell, hated by people for a bunch a reasons, and has been beaten by a console barely a year out. And is causing a profit loss. That's my POV.

Exactly, they need Western Studios. Either evolve or go 3rd party. Since they haven't started already I highly doubt this isn't anything they're planning for, so... I wouldn't be too surprised if next gen is the last gen for Nintendo's home consoles. They need to wake to the changed landscape.

Yeah they need to change their image in the west and lure back the 3rd parties by paving the way for them and establish an instal base that will buy those kind of games.

Or they can unify handheld and home console platforms and/or make their offering from the start as companion console, launching at low price...though, personally, I would love to see them giving another shot at powerful, preferably gimmick free hardware (along with few new or acquired western oriented studios) that is able to go head to head with MSony.

Yeah, that's one of the things they can do to evolve - I think I've mentioned that in this thread before? Or was it the one about portables dying...? Anyways, it's one of the was they can evolve - perhaps the cheapest way. If they're making a powerful console to rival the PS5 they NEED Western studios of their own, or it'll bomb so hard

Their home console business is in more peril than the handheld business. Which is weird when all you hear is how handhelds are dead!

The only to actually lure MS and Sony fans is by giving them games that they like exclusively on the home console. That's the only way to do it. If not, we will see some 3rd parties bringing their games at launch and afterwards just to see people buying them on PS4 or XB1.
Gamers can move from one console to another, but you need to give them a really good reason to do it.

Sometimes i think Nintendo knows very well that their strategy of dumping their best games in the first 2 years on the market is not enough. It didn't work for GC and it didn't even work for Wii. The big exclusives always went to PS2/Xbox and PS3/Xbox 360, because Sony and MS created a business for them!

We are still a couple years, at least, from a new console by Nintendo.
Ideally, now, would be the best way to start building studios and new franchises. But there's still time.

If Splatoon actually does well in the US and Europe we might see Nintendo greenlighting more of those projects instead of making them in western studios.
Personally, i'm hopeful that Nintendo's next financial briefing, which is in a couple of weeks, will reveal even more of their plans for the next generation. We might even be happy about some things.

They netted a lot of casuals, and a generation of kids.

Issue is the casuals moved on, the generation got older and wanted other things, and the new generation of kids don't really seem interested in what Nintendo has to offer, leaving only the hardcore fans and the stragglers from previous generations that felt an attachment enough to keep buying.

The numbers speak for themselves, The WiiU is doing poorly.

As people have stated, even if we were looking from a pre wii perspective, the overall numbers still show decline.

Really though I don't think we should ignore it simply for the fact that Nintendo as a whole were in a vastly better position in 2011 then they were in 2005. Even if half of wii's userbase never pick up a game controller again there is no reason why the systems successor should be doing so poorly. Nintendo could easily be looking at a console with 15m sales at this point but the Wii U was such a poorly designed and launched system that they made a mess of the opportunity they had.