I don't know why, but this made me laugh

Sega CD was the first cd based gaming as well as the first cut scenes in gaming.

Atari 7600 was backwards compatible, and Sega CD was the fist CD based gaming.

i cannot agree with your cd argument. sega wasn't the first. johnny turbo said so.

Well, looks like we're all standing corrected.

How can you bother to respond when you have no idea what I said?  If you bothered reading the last part of what I said.  Being first does not automatically make something innovative.  Which seems to be your entire premise for argument.

What onlive did is absolutly innovative.  WE KNOW onlive and Gaikai were basically in competition with one another.  So, when onlive fails, and Gaikai becomes Playstation now, it's suddenly innovative?!  Are you kidding?  We're all aware that the only reason Onlive failed is because of google fiber not being standard.

You may not think of it as a console, but, I consider it, and handhelds as consoles.  They aren't home television consoles per-se, but they are micro-consoles and handheld CONSOLES.

But... one thing I forgot...  Sony did in part own blu-ray and they pushed it.  I don't think there was ever a game that needed all 50+GB of space, or even a 2-disc bluray game, and that, in part is why the PS4 was right in keeping it.

Maybe I'd even credit with the touch pad as innovative, on the PS4 controller.  It may not be first but that controller feels nice.  I bought one just for the sake of using it on my computer and PS3 last october.  No problems with it, and I play fighting games mostly.  I can shoryuken just fine.  EWGF for the rare occasions I pick Kazuya, eventhough I don't use him. But, obviously, I haven't had a chance to use that pad.  Outside of clicking it like a button.

So, screw it.. That entire controller is innovative.  It was developed by the developers of the software and it works.  Yeah, directional pads... nintendo. diamond shaped action buttons, I get it.  But, with everything brought together, sony turned a good controller that I like a lot but was getting sick of (ps3) and made it better (ps4).  

Too bad the console looks like something that fell off Metal Gear Rex.

Forget what anyone says, that PS3 controller was great.  But, the 4 has a better one.  I haven't had any thumb stick problems, and my hands don't make excessive oils, or anything like that.

The ONE thing i don't like are the lack of pressure sensitive buttons on the PS4.  makes everything so clicky and I don't like that.

Dude. Like if I remember correctly Nordic Games had a deal with Nintendo to publish We Sing/We Dance exclusively for Wii. Just like the one Sony had with Relentless Software (Buzz!) and Nintendo have with FreeStyleGames (Sing Party) and Joysound (Wii Karaoke U).

Just saying inspiration goes all ways. Maybe even Nintendo's new physical DLC amiibo is inspired by something. Who knows...

No offence. I enjoy my 3DS and Wii U.

I can't find that deal.  Perhaps I suck.  Maybe you can help me out?

I just don't see how a third party game can be held against Nintendo in this particular instance.  I mean, did they develop it?  Call me crazy  Meanwhile a ton of Nintendo offerings are a direct result/response/copy of things other companies have done.  I have no problem admitting that.  Credit where credit is due, etc...  I just can't see how those Wii games in your post fall into that category.

You only speak of the fibre flex sensors in the finger controls. The powerglove itself is tracked via two ultrasonic transmitters on the glove, and 3 ultrasonic receivers that are placed on your tv.

Everyone is missing Sony's most important contribution. They were the first to make memory cards a mandatory purchase in order to save games.