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MegaManX said:
Sony was not the first CD based console, the 3DO, Sega CD, Turbografx-16, Neo Geo CD, Philips CDI, and Atari Jaguar spring to mind and I'm sure there were other more obscure consoles that did to.


Yeah TG-16 was the first, interesting tidbit though i recently discovered there was a commodore 64 game compilation of some 20 odd games released on CD back in the mid 80s! of course you had to hook up your CD player/stereo to the C64 and it would load them via the analogue audio contained on the CD as opposed to being digital files on there but i'm pretty sure it is the first example of games being released on a CD.



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Nettles said:
MegaManX said:
Sony was not the first CD based console, the 3DO, Sega CD, Turbografx-16, Neo Geo CD, Philips CDI, and Atari Jaguar spring to mind and I'm sure there were other more obscure consoles that did to.


Yeah TG-16 was the first, interesting tidbit though i recently discovered there was a commodore 64 game compilation of some 20 odd games released on CD back in the mid 80s! of course you had to hook up your CD player/stereo to the C64 and it would load them via the analogue audio contained on the CD as opposed to being digital files on there but i'm pretty sure it is the first example of games being released on a CD.

The joys of magnetic tapes, really bad as protection.



NickK said:
They did a great work ripping off Nintendo's ideas on how to make their controllers :) I have to give them that credit!

And do you REALLY consider revolution the implantation of DVD and Blu-ray? Sounds more like a gimmick.

Are you a sony-fan?


Yeah the DVD/BR implementation should be removed as i remember PC was the first gaming machine to have that sort of stuff.It's just natural progression nothing really innovative or groundbreaking (DVD was already around, putting it in gaming consoles was a natural idea)



NickK said:
They did a great work ripping off Nintendo's ideas on how to make their controllers :) I have to give them that credit!


...and Nintendo did a great job "ripping off" PlayStation's ideas on how to make motion controlled games.

Inspiration goes both (all) ways. Move on with your life.

                         

                  

                    

                   

                

               

             

              

            

 

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Tamron said:
Nettles said:
MegaManX said:
Sony was not the first CD based console, the 3DO, Sega CD, Turbografx-16, Neo Geo CD, Philips CDI, and Atari Jaguar spring to mind and I'm sure there were other more obscure consoles that did to.


Yeah TG-16 was the first, interesting tidbit though i recently discovered there was a commodore 64 game compilation of some 20 odd games released on CD back in the mid 80s! of course you had to hook up your CD player/stereo to the C64 and it would load them via the analogue audio contained on the CD as opposed to being digital files on there but i'm pretty sure it is the first example of games being released on a CD.

The joys of magnetic tapes, really bad as protection.

Yeah they had alot of problems but they had one big advantage : Price!

One of my earliest memories was going with my parents to London (in 1990) and buying a tape game for my ZX +2, 1.99 or whatever it was.NES flopped hard in the UK, 1.99 a game vs 35.99 a game, plus very easy copying with the cassetes.No comparison.



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Nettles said:

Yeah they had alot of problems but they had one big advantage : Price!

One of my earliest memories was going with my parents to London (in 1990) and buying a tape game for my ZX +2, 1.99 or whatever it was.NES flopped hard in the UK, 1.99 a game vs 35.99 a game, plus very easy copying with the cassetes.No comparison.

Nostalgia moment - Being stood in HMV in the late 80s watching as someone opied a c64 game using the high speed dub feature on their ghettoblaster.



Mike_L said:
NickK said:
They did a great work ripping off Nintendo's ideas on how to make their controllers :) I have to give them that credit!


...and Nintendo did a great job "ripping off" PlayStation's ideas on how to make motion controlled games.

Inspiration goes both (all) ways. Move on with your life.

                         

                  

                    

                   

                

               

             

              

            

 

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Now seriously? Getting all this crap to prove me wrong shows who needs a life. LOL #utragic

 

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NickK said:
Mike_L said:
NickK said:

 

Now seriously? Getting all this crap to prove me wrong shows who needs a life. LOL #utragic


Move on with your life :-*

I didn't put that list together btw.



It's pretty simple-minded to see "innovation" as only being possible in the technical sphere.

Sony's real innovations in the gaming medium are almost all business related.

Put simply, Sony (and Ken Kutaragi) intended from before they even had a working PS1 to change most of the established facts about the gaming business: manufacturing, licensing, accessability to developers and the public image of the medium from "toy" to something more in line with music or film. That's also why SCEI was originally organized under Sony Music, rather than one of the technical divisions.

They also succeeded, and in doing so basically created the current gaming industry.

Their current "innovation"? The way they treat "indies" on their platforms as a pretty clear attempt to bring back (manyfold) the PS1 era of smaller teams doing high ambition games.



Mike_L said:
NickK said:
They did a great work ripping off Nintendo's ideas on how to make their controllers :) I have to give them that credit!


...and Nintendo did a great job "ripping off" PlayStation's ideas on how to make motion controlled games.

Inspiration goes both (all) ways. Move on with your life.

                         

                  

                    

                   

                

               

             

              

            

 

etc....

Dude.  Like 90% of the games you named weren't even made by Nintendo!!  And you make it seem as if there was no such thing as a Power Pad (made by Bandai) for the Nes!  It had a lot of those genres covered before the Playstation 1 was even an idea.  Plus different implementations of similar ideas.  Compare how you play and Eye Toy game to how you play a Wii Remote game.  Quite different.

A lot of things were made for the Nes that people don't remember.  There was and excercise bike called the Life Cycle, there was R.O.B. the robot pimp, there was a controller for people that couldn't use their hands (it used sucking and blowing as inputs), there was the Miracle Keyboard that taught people how to play piano.  There was the Turbo Touch 360 controller with a touch sensor instead of a D-Pad.  Even something called a U Force that could sense motions.

This is all from memory.  And, as I stated, almost none of these were made by Nintendo but made for Nintendo.