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prinz_valium said:
Ps4 ans xb1 undertracked

Destiny massively overtracked.
And I was right. Xb1 destiny standalone > ps4
Overall ps4 destiny just 100 unitits more


I'm just shocked by the 530k ps4 number. Never expected that. Ps4 still not slowing down. It has to. Otherwise the gaming market is in big trouble


Just ignore that Microsoft gave away Destiny for free to counter the Sony Marketing Deal with Bungie.Perfectly fine

And why is gaming in trouble?
PS1+PS2 Era were 2 of the best Gens of all time.Its the best case scenario for every gamer if Sony rules this market.
Especially if Developers see a Community is big and united this could mean a lot more variety in games which is good.
I gladly wish Nintendo would find back to old strenght but sadly this won't happen in the near future.
But otherwise this Gen is amazing and i hope the PS4 is able to continue this way.
And after what Sony experienced with the PS3 they won't get cocky anymore either - They are now fully aware if you screw up you lose a lot.
Now they just have to keep an eye on what Microsoft does and counter their bundles and upcoming pricedrops in a smart way.

Just for information
What are the estimates for September Worldwide right now?Close to 1,5 Million?



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torok said:

Don't know if it was already posted, but Creamsugar posted it on GAF:

PS4 > X1 + Wii U + PS3 + 360 + Wii this month.


Last year sales must have been terrible, so PS4 alone would have to count for the 136% incrisease in hardware revenue. And we all know the PS4 is not 100% more expecive than the 360 or PS3 were last year.



prinz_valium said:
Ps4 ans xb1 undertracked

Destiny massively overtracked.
And I was right. Xb1 destiny standalone > ps4
Overall ps4 destiny just 100 unitits more


I'm just shocked by the 530k ps4 number. Never expected that. Ps4 still not slowing down. It has to. Otherwise the gaming market is in big trouble


What are you talking about? PS4 is the flagship of home console gaming. Plus Sony focuses on gaming, gaming and gaming which is good for us.



Dark_Feanor said:

PS4 > X1 + Wii U + PS3 + 360 + Wii this month.


Last year sales must have been terrible, so PS4 alone would have to count for the 136% incrisease in hardware revenue. And we all know the PS4 is not 100% more expecive than the 360 or PS3 were last year.


I'm not that sure that last September was that bad. It was the GTAV lauch that gave a decent boost to PS360. And we had a lot of PS3 bundles.



torok said:
Dark_Feanor said:

PS4 > X1 + Wii U + PS3 + 360 + Wii this month.


Last year sales must have been terrible, so PS4 alone would have to count for the 136% incrisease in hardware revenue. And we all know the PS4 is not 100% more expecive than the 360 or PS3 were last year.


I'm not that sure that last September was that bad. It was the GTAV lauch that gave a decent boost to PS360. And we had a lot of PS3 bundles.


A lot of people were simply holding back... September was two months away from the next gen trigger.   Expect October to be abother massive  increase in hardware from October 13.  I don't have enogh data to predict November. 

BTW: PS4 > X1 + Wii U + PS3 + 360 + Wii this month... now thats impressive.



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Oh it's the aquamarine is only speculating narrative again. Just because Sony doesn't boast they didn't sell that much!!



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torok said:
Dark_Feanor said:

PS4 > X1 + Wii U + PS3 + 360 + Wii this month.


Last year sales must have been terrible, so PS4 alone would have to count for the 136% incrisease in hardware revenue. And we all know the PS4 is not 100% more expecive than the 360 or PS3 were last year.


I'm not that sure that last September was that bad. It was the GTAV lauch that gave a decent boost to PS360. And we had a lot of PS3 bundles.

PS3 did about 220k and 360 170k (if we going by NeoGaf inferences). However both had bundles.


http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/threads/197303-NPD-September-2013-U-S-sales-results-GTA-V-revitalises-the-declining-US-games-market

• 3DS: Best selling platform.
• PS3: Best selling console. The GTA bundle represented a large portion of its sales.
• Xbox 360: Has sold 1.6 million this year so far. This gives us an estimate of 169K.
• Wii U: Up 200% from last month. To note, a 200% increase means it's three times as much as last month.

"This month, Xbox 360 reached 80 million consoles sold to retailers worldwide* and maintained its lead as the number one selling console in the U.S. in 2013.


September 2013 NPD highlights:

• Last month marked the biggest September software sales for Xbox 360, with sales reaching $401.2 million, the most for any console in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, September 2013)
• Xbox 360 continues to see strong consumer demand with an amazing lineup of titles. In fact, Xbox 360 held five of the top 10 console games during the month of September including: “Grand Theft Auto V,” “FIFA 14,” “Madden NFL 14,” “Diablo III” and “NBA 2K14.” (Source: NPD Group, September 2013)
• Xbox 360 remains the number one selling console in the U.S. in 2013, with 1.6 million units sold this year. (Source: NPD Group, September 2013)

Xbox 360 is poised for another successful holiday with recently announced Xbox 360 holiday bundles available worldwide at select major retailers. The three holiday bundles are:

• Xbox 360 250GB Holiday Bundle with “Halo 4” and “Tomb Raider” as well as one month free of Xbox Live Gold available for $249.99** USD (ERP).
• Xbox 360 4GB Kinect Holiday Bundle with “Kinect Sports: Season Two” and “Kinect Adventures” as well as one month free of Xbox Live Gold available for $249.99** USD (ERP).
• Xbox 360 250GB Kinect Holiday Bundle with “Kinect Sports: Season Two,” “Kinect Adventures,” and “Forza Horizon” as well as one month free of Xbox Live Gold available for $349.99** USD (ERP).

This holiday only, the Xbox 360 4GB Console is available for an incredible value of $179.99** USD (ERP). Now is the time to get a great deal on Xbox 360.

Looking ahead to Xbox One launch, we continue to see overwhelming demand for the console with pre-orders for Xbox One selling out quicker than any previous Xbox release; Xbox One pre-orders continue to outpace Xbox 360 pre-orders in the same time period. While we remain on track to honor all pre-order commitments, we do expect to sell every Xbox One we deliver to retail this holiday.

With the release of Xbox One, amazing new titles coming to Xbox One and Xbox 360 and best-ever holiday offers available for Xbox 360, it’s going to be a great year for Xbox.

*Internal Microsoft data
**Games inside marked packages, while supplies last. Estimated retail price; actual prices may vary.

See participating retailer for details."

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And I just noticed that the 3DS is included in the Hardware total sales and Gaf says sales decreased 40% YoY.

So, forgive me if I don´t belive in that pie chart.



Ninsect said:
Oh it's the aquamarine is only speculating narrative again. Just because Sony doesn't boast they didn't sell that much!!


Normal. The only bad news there is that we won't have more CreamSugar leaks.



Ninsect said:
Oh it's the aquamarine is only speculating narrative again. Just because Sony doesn't boast they didn't sell that much!!


They could have sold that much... that dosen´t change that others could have done better.

In fact that was the case in July, Gaf overestimated PS4 in less than 50k but underestimated the XOne by more than 150k.

It´s just not logic that Destiny (and other free games) had no effect in XOne sales week over week (remember August was 4 weeks and September 5).

And let´s not forget the overall 136% hardware bump (that includes 3DS with a 40% drop YoY).



Ninsect said:
Oh it's the aquamarine is only speculating narrative again. Just because Sony doesn't boast they didn't sell that much!!


I don't understand.  Isn't saying you sold triple August NPD boasting enough? Is it really necessary for them to talk about how they outsold eveything combined?  Because thats not modest.  And people like a modest winner.