How much will Xbox One outsell WiiU by January 3rd? | |||
| 500,000 | 29 | 13.24% | |
| 1,000,000 | 27 | 12.33% | |
| 1,500,000 | 22 | 10.05% | |
| 2,000,000 | 49 | 22.37% | |
| 2,500,000 | 36 | 16.44% | |
| 3,000,000 | 23 | 10.50% | |
| 3,500,000 | 4 | 1.83% | |
| 4,000,0000 | 27 | 12.33% | |
| Total: | 217 | ||
it will happen sooner or later at the pace things are going
"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian
If it doesn't happen by year's end it could really be a long wait. The sale is temporary and so Microsoft is gonna sell a boat load now but if that price goes back to normal they're going to suffer from a real dry spell as sony has dominant software early next year. Who's gonna buy an xbox one for 399.99 in the first half of 2015 versus sony's lineup and the fact that xbox one was just recently sold for so much cheaper. Wouldn't surprise me if Wiiu outsells xbox one during this period and Nintendo seems to have a strong lineup late next year and by then the ability to do a price drop into the mainstream pricepoint of sub 250 dollars.
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Data such as? I'm sure you have a chart showing the percentage of overlap and objectively proving subjective preferences. Also don't get it twisted, these "commonly accepted facts" are your opiniated assumptions that you claim to be fact. Completely disregarding the concept of change. The disagreement was not that whether or not there is overlap but how using that overlap to predict sales is unreasonable, and by using vague language in his prediction it cannot be proven or disproven either. That's why the variables A and B are undefined. There is no specified percentage of the bases, mainly because of the lack of evidence and there is no percentage of consoles that must be moved to rendered it true if it falls below or false if it sells above. There is no goal post.
And another thing, if you can't awnser this question then this discussion is pointless. What part of the Mario Kart series exclusively advertises or gets people intrested in the Smash Brothers Series? |
Simple the entire Nintendo Lore, this is exactly why THERE is with no need of numeric data, evidently, more overlap between MK and smash than forza and halo, denying it is ludicrous.
lets put it that way there would be more overlap between a “Halo Forza kart racing ulimited“ and Halo than between Halo and Forza this is evident and a verifiable trend with about any marketing associatio. Take hello kitty, take Pokémon, yughi yo, peanuts, or whatever you wan. fact is ninty stuff attract more ninty stuff hence smash fans are more likely to be MK fan.
We know MK fan base is bigger than Forza in regard to their respective counterpart namely Smash and Halo. Therefore, yes Halo has more HW pushing power than smash….
In that situation MK=Halo and Smash=Forza in fan base, so since the biggest HW pusher came first on ninty and second on XBo it is logical that there is more HW pushing power left on XB sid. In other word it would have been Smash first and MK second and Halo first and forza second on the release schedule I would have agreed MK would have probably won the HW pushing
And stop saying it’s my opinion any Nintendo fan that love smash probably love or at least like MK and in any case are more likely to buy MK than Forza fans are to buy Halo which have absolutely nothing in common not even their identity. Smash is a spawn of MK in the Nintendo lore period whether you like it or not at least from a marketing and brand identity point of view SO YES IT DOES ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE IN COMMON. and even if it is without doubt more likely statistically than Forza fan being halo fans You are trying to tell us that there is no way to say a Mikey mouse fan is not more likely to be a Donald duck fan as well than a Transformers fan is likely to be a Harry Potter one. Who are you trying to convince here if that were true we would fall in the highly improbable extremities of a bell curve with 20 standard deviations of improbability on top of it. So yeah I don’t have empiric numeric data for the overlap but I don’t need to because we would fall under an highly improbable situation in any case.
MK and Smash have more in common than Forza and Halo no need for data, past experience, years of gaming, my college education, and professional life in marketing are enough for me. Like I can guarantee you there is more overlap between COD and Halo fans than MK and smash and I don’t need numeric data to be 99% sure of that. Yet I LOVE HALO AND HATE COD but I know I fall in the marginal part of the bell curve.
Materia-Blade said:
If you followed thew data so much, you should know there are still tons of mario kart fans that didn't purchase mk 8 (or even a wii u) yet. also, that both smash and mario kart have fanbases quite larger than wii u's current installed base. even if every single wii u owner was a smash buyer (hint, it's not even close, millions of current owners won't buy smash), there would still be 3m+ fans that didn't have a wii u. many people simply wait untill the console has a good number of games they want. |
taht's not what I'm arguing here.
I'm saying MK is more attracting in the ninty fan base than Forza or most of the other title released on XB prior to halo and Smash is no match for MK. and therefore for Halo. if we had reverted the schedule SMash release with halo last year and today it'd be MK and say Forza I would have said MK will attract more people than Forza (without taking in consideration the appeal of both console in general and there pricing). So yeah no matter what Halo>Smash in HW pushing power but the fact that MK released before Smash is not helping ninty since MK already a big HW pusher in the ninty catalogue. of course everybody that like one or the other or both didn't buy a Wii U yet but same can be said about any console.
again I'm not trying to DOOM ninty, I love ninty I grew up with a nintendo and a gameboy, and I hope they'll find a way to come back and can't wait to see what they'll do next. but I do not believe a second that they have a big HW pusher with smash compare to halo especially considering that MK one of their biggest HW pusher already released.
same goes for XB after Halo MCC even with all the goodies I can't wait to play the next big HW pusher will be Halo 5 and maybe Gears but even that won't match Halo and there will be a ton of overlap in that case too....
endimion said:
Simple the entire Nintendo Lore, this is exactly why THERE is with no need of numeric data, evidently, more overlap between MK and smash than forza and halo, denying it is ludicrous.
lets put it that way there would be more overlap between a “Halo Forza kart racing ulimited“ and Halo than between Halo and Forza this is evident and a verifiable trend with about any marketing associatio. Take hello kitty, take Pokémon, yughi yo, peanuts, or whatever you wan. fact is ninty stuff attract more ninty stuff hence smash fans are more likely to be MK fan.
We know MK fan base is bigger than Forza in regard to their respective counterpart namely Smash and Halo. Therefore, yes Halo has more HW pushing power than smash….
In that situation MK=Halo and Smash=Forza in fan base, so since the biggest HW pusher came first on ninty and second on XBo it is logical that there is more HW pushing power left on XB sid. In other word it would have been Smash first and MK second and Halo first and forza second on the release schedule I would have agreed MK would have probably won the HW pushing
And stop saying it’s my opinion any Nintendo fan that love smash probably love or at least like MK and in any case are more likely to buy MK than Forza fans are to buy Halo which have absolutely nothing in common not even their identity. Smash is a spawn of MK in the Nintendo lore period whether you like it or not at least from a marketing and brand identity point of view SO YES IT DOES ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE IN COMMON. and even if it is without doubt more likely statistically than Forza fan being halo fans You are trying to tell us that there is no way to say a Mikey mouse fan is not more likely to be a Donald duck fan as well than a Transformers fan is likely to be a Harry Potter one. Who are you trying to convince here if that were true we would fall in the highly improbable extremities of a bell curve with 20 standard deviations of improbability on top of it. So yeah I don’t have empiric numeric data for the overlap but I don’t need to because we would fall under an highly improbable situation in any case.
MK and Smash have more in common than Forza and Halo no need for data, past experience, years of gaming, my college education, and professional life in marketing are enough for me. Like I can guarantee you there is more overlap between COD and Halo fans than MK and smash and I don’t need numeric data to be 99% sure of that. Yet I LOVE HALO AND HATE COD but I know I fall in the marginal part of the bell curve.
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| endimion said:
Simple the entire Nintendo Lore, this is exactly why THERE is with no need of numeric data, evidently, more overlap between MK and smash than forza and halo, denying it is ludicrous.
Smash is a spawn of MK in the Nintendo lore period
MK and Smash have more in common than Forza and Halo no need for data, past experience, years of gaming, my college education, and professional life in marketing are enough for me.
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| endimion said: the entire Nintendo Lore,
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endimion said:
this is exactly why THERE is with no need of numeric data,
And stop saying it’s my opinion any Nintendo fan that love smash probably love or at least like MK So yeah I don’t have empiric numeric data for the overlap but I don’t need to
no need for data, past experience, years of gaming, my college education, and professional life in marketing are enough for me. I don’t need numeric data to be 99% sure of that. |
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| Barozi said: yeah no problem in achieving this now. At the start of the year I predicted the X1 to catch the WiiU by end of the year. It surely was a lot closer than I thought, due to the X1 not quite doing as much as I expected. |
scratch that.
| WhiteEaglePL said: I hope not. I hope for February 2015. But whenever it does. I am LEAVING this site.  |
So...you still here?
| WhiteEaglePL said: I hope not. I hope for February 2015. But whenever it does. I am LEAVING this site. |
So about that "leaving" thing, you gonna leave?
Teeqoz said:
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i didnt expect another XBO price cut(100$ in one year was enough, in my mind), and i expected a wii U price cut.
in these condictions i said that it would happen in 2015.
but the oposite happens, so...
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