There's been a lot of talk about this post: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7394999#content

It was reported yesterday. Members of the mod team reviewed it and determined it did not break any rules. I personally wrote to the post maker and he explained that it was NOT meant in any way to compare gay marriage and terrorism, only that those two things occurred, coincidentally, in the same 24 hour period.

Was it phrased poorly? Perhaps. But the team determined it did not break the rules.

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I was going to post in your thread right at the moment it was closed by the Mod Team. I think one of the problems with that thread is how you labelled people who were excited for awesome games that didn't have a release date unintelligent.

If instead of calling names and labeling people as unintelligent you would have focused in your opinion on how we should celebrate e3 announcements of games that are close to their release date it would have given way to a nicer discussion, but you had to go and call people unintelligent.

padib, I understand. Beign critical, being analytical, questioning the status quo -- these are all important things. They're especially important on a forum like this.

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You are calling them unintelligent. You are name calling. You are calling them unintelligent for "heralding" Sony e3 announcements that don't have a release date.

You could have instead wrote about:

1) Disadvantages of e3 announcemtens without release date

2) Advantages of e3 announcements of games close to release date

3) How you think it would be better to expect and demand release dates or more tangible announcements

etc.

There is no need to name call people if you want to convince them of something, you shut down your chances of bringing forth a valid discussion. There is no need to call them unintelligent.

You said this:

I don't know what you are trying to say, how you mix yourself in all of it, and how you are trying to justify calling people who get excited at Sony annoucements without release dates as "unintelligent".

You give mixed messages, you say that it is sound to call Sony the winner, yet you say that giving Sony the e3 crown for those announcements without release dates is unintelligent.

So you are either giving Sony the e3 crown for something other than those releases without dates, or you are trying to allow the unintelligent name calling pass by, by adding yourself to the mix.

If you say is ok for Sony to own the e3 crown, then why is it unintelligent to give them the win? You said this:

You say people are unintelligent for not considering the "important point" of how early these announcements were, but then say it doesn't matter because they deserve the win anyways.

So you are contradicting yourself and again: leaving the name calling aside could have saved you the trouble.

It seems to me that you described your slow process of falling into the realization that you had the correct opinion that Sony won e3 from the start, and you somehow claimed that people were stuck on the first step of that realization for whatever reason I can't understand because you can't know.

Your steps:

1st Step: Wow, Sony won.

2nd Step: I ask myself, did Sony really win? I mean, those are some early announcements and I am riding momentum here.

3rd Step: Well, Sony does deserve the win after all with those announcements.

So you invite people to rethink their appreciation of Sony's e3 and ask them to question their opinion which you then believe is valid in the end and makes sense: Sony won e3.

It is a very complicated argument you are trying to make and I think you are jumping the gun some by saying people gave a hasty win to Sony when you don't know their process of thinking, and when in reality you appear to have done an unnecesarry step (step 2) of questioning Sony's win when, after all, you had the answer of your true opinon in the first step anyway.

You could have made a thread and ask:

When you guys got excited about FFVII Remake and Shenmue 3, did you guys consider that those games don't have a tangible release date and may be coming to other platforms, etc.? That could have gone way smoother and invite to reflect upon how significant those titles were for Sony's e3.

Again, not using the "unintelligent" name calling could have saved you the trouble and making a thread instead discussing the points I listed could have yielded the discussion you wanted to create without calling for confusion and trouble.

I have no idea what you are trying to say with this.

padib you make a thread with your second paragraph and there you'd have the discussion you wanted, I am sure. No need to bring the "unintelligent" part, that is the issue. I mean, I call people worse things elsewhere but this is a "cause and effect" thing considering the rules of the website.

I like insults, I like curse words. I may be the user that uses most curse worse in here in normal posts nowdays. I would have more freedom in this forum so I am not criticizing you but explaining this cause and effect thing. So in this forum you need the effort of staying in white areas (grey areas at the most - but you can get into danger by going there) and evade black to stay away from bans.

About me messing with Christianity, I completely get what you mean and it was a fine observation from your part. I tend to get in trouble by being hostile against Christianity because it is so invasive in my everyday life that I can't help but use my teeth and nails to make it back off when I crash this forum, and when I do write against Christianity I can feel the ban approaching me the moment I click "Submit". I often go into grey area when I talk against Christianity and religion in general and accept if I get banned when I go full Kamikaze. Against Christianity I tend to go Kamikaze so I know the risk. Nowadays however, I try to stay away from Christianity discussions to evade the urge of arguing and being hostile because I do enjoy coming here and post and I don't want to get banned.

I don't know if this really is something important, but before I made this account I made an account called "oheao." I never used it due to issues with my e-mail account (I couldn't verify the account as I couldn't access my e-mail, so I eventually had to get another one, which I made this account with). So, you can permaban oheao as an alternate ID if you like. Just please ban oheao and not this account by accident!

I can't speak for the Mod team because I am of course not part of it. But if you take into account the fact that the Mod Team is comprised of differernt people that, as people, have their own interpretation of the rules that may most of the time coincide, but still allow room for different outlooks, well, they may find some things within and outside the rules of what is appropriate and what isn't, individually.

Maybe at this hour X mod took a situation and he thought it wasn't that bad, and then at this other hour there is this other mod that does see something out of bounds in the same post. I understand that mods contact each other over some posts and consult each other though.

We have to take into consideration though, that we tend to go grey area a lot, so it isn't easy for the mod team either.

The only thing we can do is be careful of what we write and learn what got us banned and evade that when posting.

I do believe controversy sells, and gets you posts, but you have to go grey for that, so proceed knowing you can throw yourself to the sharks with that underwater jump.

You posts a lot of Nintendo stuff, don't you? That forum has a lot of activity, I doubt you have much trouble getting discussions going for those threads when Nintendo fans are so active.

In this situation you found yourself getting banned for name calling, so try to evade narrowing down an explanation to a single adjective. Actually, evade adjectives. Maybe opened questions that ask for thoughts and opinions will make people confront your ideas and arguments. Just a thought.

Random question, when is VGCs peak hour?

From experience, around mid-day to evening US Central time.
or whenever there's a major conference/announcement.