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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One 'to avoid all the debates and stuff'

For people using the CPU and AI argument, I will let you know ps4 has more lanes in the Gpu than xb one for GPGPU. That was done in purpose and mentioned by Mark Cerny several times as a great benefit for this generation compared to the previous one, so if devs don't use it and are taking the easy way out putting the blame on CPU just to meet a business contract or just to avoid "debates and stuff" they do deserve all the backlash we can give them.



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IamAwsome said:
Everybody cares that the XB1 is supposedly "holding the PS4 back", but NOBODY cared when the PS1 and PS2 held other consoles back...


Games were made for the PS2, so thats different. I didn't have many multiplat xbox games but were they literally the same as the pS2 builds (resolutions, jaggies) or were they just not as impressive as xbox exclusives?



That thread explosion



Zekkyou said:
vivster said:
teigaga said:

Well that was in specific reference to the game being locked at 30fps, I'd be suprised if the GPU cannot enable better performance in some whay or another considering (if what you say is true about the xbox's CPU) that all other games have looked better on sonys platform? If the CPU is fully taxed does that render the additional specs of the GPU useless?

Exactly yes. Believe it or not but the GPU actually needs the CPU to feed it stuff to render. So if the CPU is maxed out, the GPU will be behind in its work load resulting in a maxed out CPU and a GPU only at half capacity waiting for the CPU to finish.

Meaning if your CPU is fully maxed out, all the shaders in the world will not create more frames on the screen. In the future stuff like this should and probably will be circumvented by GPGPU meaning that the GPU will take off some load of the CPU for tasks that the GPU can do a lot quicker and more efficiently.

I wonder how long it will take for us to see GPGPU be utilized in this context. Very few consoles games are built around the CPU (likely why both MS and Sony opted for GPU > CPU set ups), so it would require specific developers like Ubisoft to bother.

I'm pretty sure studios like Naughty Dog are currently knee deep in exploring all the possibilities. AMD GPUs are actually very good at GPGPU and the additional ACEs of the PS4 make it even more viable. I'd be extremely surprised if we don't see GPGPU utilized in UC4.



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Saying this has to do with a Microsoft marketing deal makes you just as pathetic as some misterXmedia fanatics who claim that Sony does the same, IMO.

You can't blame developers for not optimizing the game in order to achieve 1080p and/or 60fps or rather higher than 900p/30fps on PS4, one could say the same for every resolution/frame rate inferior game on Xbox One. Setting a common resolution and framerate in order to improve on more essential parts of the game is not wrong, in fact it makes working on both versions AT THE SAME TIME easier/more efficient/less time consuming.

Don't get me wrong, the PS4 may be stronger than the Xbox One, the PS4 certainly is capable at running the game at higher settings (as is the Xbox One), but the question for the developer is how much would you want to sacrifice in order to achieve that? Possible answers would be a delay for one or both systems, or a sacrifice in gameplay elements, or shifting primary focus on one system for various reasons such as easier coding and more or less neglecting the other.

IMO, Ubisoft gave the right answer. Delaying an Assassin's Creed game beyond the holiday season would be unresonable, gameplay elements are more important than resolution and frame rate, so they set the resolution and frame rate to something both can achieve without sacrificing gameplay elements in the given time they have. BUT BOTH HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY OPTIMIZED!!!

PS: This doesn't mean there won't be any patch like in Black Flag. "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt.", my dear PS-fans ;)



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Good job Ubisoft.. still a month to go but every "core" nerd on the internet is talking about the game... and will still buy the game..



 

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Well at least I don't have to buy new now. Won't feel bad at all knowing that it could easily be 1080p like AC4 on PS4 if Xbox weren't paying them off. I thought Phil was cool? Oh well I might skip AC entirely this year.




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walsufnir said:
That thread explosion

This will probably catch more steam than the Tomb Raider deal ever did. 



dahuman said:



Why bring PC in console discussion? Its unwanted. Come on.



IamAwsome said:
walsufnir said:
That thread explosion

This will probably catch more steam than the Tomb Raider deal ever did. 


Could very well be! I save my opinion about this until people cooled down a little bit ;)