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If the Nintendo Fusion is another hardcore gaming system, it won't sell more than the Wii U and 3DS combined.

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As long as fusion could play Wii u and 3ds games on , but you need both handheld and home fusions, a good ammount of people would buy both.
And it will count as the double of sales.

But my concern with fusion is the price.
A near to Wii u handheld would cost too much, even in the next 2 years.
The home console above ps4 even more.
They will probably bundle both in a single pack. This would cost arround 600$ at the time. This could be the worst barrier to the consumers.



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There is no "Nintendo Fusion" yet, it's only speculation on the part of some folks.

But if it DID exist in the future, and was what people propose: a hybrid home console/portable system? It would sell very well. Why? Because it would take the sales their portable system would usually get, ALONG with the sales the home console would usually get. And it would also get all the games, presumably, that their portable systems usually get, including better third party support, since it doubles as a portable console itself. And that includes multi-million-selling mainstream Pokemon.

On the one hand, it would suck, because you wouldn't have two separate systems, with two separate sets of games to look forward to. On the other hand, the hardware would be unified, no two separate sets of specs, and you'd only have to buy one console. The real question would then become, would Nintendo and the many companies under their umbrella, continue to pump out the same quantity of games that they have for, say, Wii U AND 3DS, for this one console? Would it get superb first party support with NO real droughts, ever? Or would Nintendo slow down game production since it's now just one system? If they were smart, they'd do the former, not the latter, so that even if 3rd party support WASN'T there (though I think it would be much stronger), they'd have a very nice flow of Nintendo published games, as well as eShop games.

To me, that is the only MAJOR problem that Wii U is having. Yes, the weak current 3rd party support does suck, even though I don't personally buy most of those games on PS3 either. But the major drawback for Wii U, hasn't been the lack of multi-console ports. It's been the droughts that the system has suffered, months-long stretches where hardly anything, even from Nintendo, has come out for retail. Granted, 2014 wasn't as bad as 2013. But it still had it's lulls, and that shouldn't be the case. Nintendo has enough Wii U games in development, at least a COUPLE more of those should have released at some point in 2014, but they didn't. So I guess the theory is that maybe, if they had on "hybrid" console, it would also get the kinds of games DS/3DS have gotten, and thus wouldn't have those droughts, as Nintendo wouldn't have to split it's development between two systems.

I see the pros and the cons for the idea, honestly. I like the idea of their being a separate portable system, as there has been one since 1989. But on the other hand, only having to buy one system, and that system hopefully getting ALL the games that two normally would, would definitely have it's perks. So who knows....

But it most certainly would sell better than Wii U has been, to answer the OP's post. That doesn't mean that I want this "Fusion" to happen anytime soon, mind you. I personally like and enjoy the Wii U just fine, and think that both it and the 3DS have several more good years ahead of them. As a Wii U owner, who has invested time and money into the system, I want Nintendo to take their sweet time making the next console, and in the meantime pump out as MANY good games as they can for Wii U, because quite frankly, I want my goddamn money's worth, lol. I want this new Zelda, I want a (GOOD) Star Fox. I want a (GOOD, NOT Other M) Metroid game. I want to see more than one future game from Retro. I'd like to see Wii U entries from studios like Next Level and Monster Games. There's tons of potential for great games on Wii U, and I'd like to see at least AT LEAST through 2016, getting continuous support from Nintendo and it's subsidiaries and partners.

So I'm in no hurry at all. If this "Fusion" didn't actually happen until, say, 2017? I'd be totally cool with that.



DevilRising said:
There is no "Nintendo Fusion" yet, it's only speculation on the part of some folks.

But if it DID exist in the future, and was what people propose: a hybrid home console/portable system? It would sell very well. Why? Because it would take the sales their portable system would usually get, ALONG with the sales the home console would usually get. And it would also get all the games, presumably, that their portable systems usually get, including better third party support, since it doubles as a portable console itself. And that includes multi-million-selling mainstream Pokemon.

On the one hand, it would suck, because you wouldn't have two separate systems, with two separate sets of games to look forward to. On the other hand, the hardware would be unified, no two separate sets of specs, and you'd only have to buy one console. The real question would then become, would Nintendo and the many companies under their umbrella, continue to pump out the same quantity of games that they have for, say, Wii U AND 3DS, for this one console? Would it get superb first party support with NO real droughts, ever? Or would Nintendo slow down game production since it's now just one system? If they were smart, they'd do the former, not the latter, so that even if 3rd party support WASN'T there (though I think it would be much stronger), they'd have a very nice flow of Nintendo published games, as well as eShop games.

To me, that is the only MAJOR problem that Wii U is having. Yes, the weak current 3rd party support does suck, even though I don't personally buy most of those games on PS3 either. But the major drawback for Wii U, hasn't been the lack of multi-console ports. It's been the droughts that the system has suffered, months-long stretches where hardly anything, even from Nintendo, has come out for retail. Granted, 2014 wasn't as bad as 2013. But it still had it's lulls, and that shouldn't be the case. Nintendo has enough Wii U games in development, at least a COUPLE more of those should have released at some point in 2014, but they didn't. So I guess the theory is that maybe, if they had on "hybrid" console, it would also get the kinds of games DS/3DS have gotten, and thus wouldn't have those droughts, as Nintendo wouldn't have to split it's development between two systems.

I see the pros and the cons for the idea, honestly. I like the idea of their being a separate portable system, as there has been one since 1989. But on the other hand, only having to buy one system, and that system hopefully getting ALL the games that two normally would, would definitely have it's perks. So who knows....

But it most certainly would sell better than Wii U has been, to answer the OP's post. That doesn't mean that I want this "Fusion" to happen anytime soon, mind you. I personally like and enjoy the Wii U just fine, and think that both it and the 3DS have several more good years ahead of them. As a Wii U owner, who has invested time and money into the system, I want Nintendo to take their sweet time making the next console, and in the meantime pump out as MANY good games as they can for Wii U, because quite frankly, I want my goddamn money's worth, lol. I want this new Zelda, I want a (GOOD) Star Fox. I want a (GOOD, NOT Other M) Metroid game. I want to see more than one future game from Retro. I'd like to see Wii U entries from studios like Next Level and Monster Games. There's tons of potential for great games on Wii U, and I'd like to see at least AT LEAST through 2016, getting continuous support from Nintendo and it's subsidiaries and partners.

So I'm in no hurry at all. If this "Fusion" didn't actually happen until, say, 2017? I'd be totally cool with that.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you hit it on the nose .....that was well said and I agree with everything you said ....well written piece



DanneSandin said:

Any thoughts about the design fellas? I'm hoping for a clam shell design, similar to the 3/DS. That's the best way to make the console portable (small enough) and still get a decent screen size.





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DélioPT said:

It's not that they can't, it's more that they chose not to.
They have been messing with the internet since the NES days. Still they were behind because to them, it was a matter of making a profit on that end.

What they are missing now is the social aspect of it and the account system.
I'm not sure that HW isn't to blame for them not doing something more in the social side. Maybe the low RAM (compared to PS4 and XB1) doesn't allow them to do certain things.

I don't think cartridged will replace DVDs.
They probably cost more than DVDs and do hold more space.

Yes, thats the point though, isnt it? Nintendo used to be innovative and leading the industry in ALL aspects. Theyre not any more. Anyways I hope youre right and Im wrong; I hope  Nintendo gets its act together next gen and baffles our minds

I really hope i'm right, too.
If they can't learn from 3DS and Wii U, then something is very wrong at Nintendo.



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Pavolink said:
DanneSandin said:

Any thoughts about the design fellas? I'm hoping for a clam shell design, similar to the 3/DS. That's the best way to make the console portable (small enough) and still get a decent screen size.



All that one needs are TWO analog-thingies! I think you can even make the screen a little bigger and have the speakers on the bottom half? But not bad at all



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DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:

Yes, thats the point though, isnt it? Nintendo used to be innovative and leading the industry in ALL aspects. Theyre not any more. Anyways I hope youre right and Im wrong; I hope  Nintendo gets its act together next gen and baffles our minds

I really hope i'm right, too.
If they can't learn from 3DS and Wii U, then something is very wrong at Nintendo.

They're really slow to adapt, and there's always the chance they'll adapt to the wrong thing; pay for online play is just one example



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DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:

Yes, thats the point though, isnt it? Nintendo used to be innovative and leading the industry in ALL aspects. Theyre not any more. Anyways I hope youre right and Im wrong; I hope  Nintendo gets its act together next gen and baffles our minds

I really hope i'm right, too.
If they can't learn from 3DS and Wii U, then something is very wrong at Nintendo.

They're really slow to adapt, and there's always the chance they'll adapt to the wrong thing; pay for online play is just one example

I really hope they never charge for online play. That would really suck!
If they are slow to adapt or never adapt, i hope this is one of those things.



There are many people especially in Europe/USA that don't play handheld devices at all.

Why should Nintendo force them to buy a system that is both portable and for tv.

It should increase the price point highly.

People that buy home consoles >< People that buy handheld.



Question: Why do people think WiiU is a hardcore oriented machine? it basically follows the Wii formula,but thanks to smartphones/tablets,without the same success.That's why WiiU is selling bad!