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If the Nintendo Fusion is another hardcore gaming system, it won't sell more than the Wii U and 3DS combined.

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OttoniBastos said:

Question: Why do people think WiiU is a hardcore oriented machine? it basically follows the Wii formula,but thanks to smartphones/tablets,without the same success.That's why WiiU is selling bad!

in fact, Wii also had lots of hardcore games(Zelda, metroid, no more héroes, mad world, xenoblade, last story, Pandoras tower, etc). But the ones that sold well are the casuals. Thats why Wii was known was a casual machine. But it is also hardcore if you choose the games properly.



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Avro1958 said:
First off it would be suicide for Nintendo to release a new console before 2018....

If they release it to soon they will:

- Alienate the WiiU supporters they have now
- When the next round of consoles from Sony and MS come out Nintendo will be in the same boat they are now with the WiiU.
- Consoles NEED to be released within months of each other not years.

These risks are what will prevent Nintendo from releasing to soon. Besides the WiiU is doing fine enough, the only people that seem to be having an issue with it are people that are to hung up on how a game looks rather then the fun behind it. If you are buying a WiiU for 3rd party games then I am sorry, that's your fault for not looking into things further. Nintendo has always been about first party games first. I buy Nintendo for the 1st party games... I have a PC/PS4 for multiplats and other exclusives.

Nintendo is in no rush to push out a new console anyway, they made enough money on the WiiU to "sit a gen out" as some people seem to think.


Nintendo hasn't made money on the Wii U at all. They're currently loosing money at a quite rapid pace.



Davman said:

There are many people especially in Europe/USA that don't play handheld devices at all.

Why should Nintendo force them to buy a system that is both portable and for tv.

It should increase the price point highly.

People that buy home consoles >< People that buy handheld.

this has been stated multiple times, it wont be one device that acts as both a handheld and console, there will be seperate devices with the same architecture and similar specs that can share the same software library. 



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DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:

They're really slow to adapt, and there's always the chance they'll adapt to the wrong thing; pay for online play is just one example

I really hope they never charge for online play. That would really suck!
If they are slow to adapt or never adapt, i hope this is one of those things.

Yeah, I got a little upset when Sony was hailed as the second coming of video games when they didn't add DRM to PS4 in their E3 presentation. All I was thinking was "Well, Nintendo already does all that AND doesn't charge for online". I hope Nintendo doesn't succumbed to the same practices



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DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:

They're really slow to adapt, and there's always the chance they'll adapt to the wrong thing; pay for online play is just one example

I really hope they never charge for online play. That would really suck!
If they are slow to adapt or never adapt, i hope this is one of those things.

Yeah, I got a little upset when Sony was hailed as the second coming of video games when they didn't add DRM to PS4 in their E3 presentation. All I was thinking was "Well, Nintendo already does all that AND doesn't charge for online". I hope Nintendo doesn't succumbed to the same practices


At that time, PS4 was already the love of the games media.
I can understand it's great not to have DRM, but to only talk about one, when there are two are following the DRM free policy, is a bit... less imparcial for what you expect the media to be. But ok...

I seriously hope not.
If they do the Fusion, their revenue and profits will surely go up, for one, so i hope they keep online free. And maybe actually advertise that! :)



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DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:

They're really slow to adapt, and there's always the chance they'll adapt to the wrong thing; pay for online play is just one example

I really hope they never charge for online play. That would really suck!
If they are slow to adapt or never adapt, i hope this is one of those things.

Yeah, I got a little upset when Sony was hailed as the second coming of video games when they didn't add DRM to PS4 in their E3 presentation. All I was thinking was "Well, Nintendo already does all that AND doesn't charge for online". I hope Nintendo doesn't succumbed to the same practices


At that time, PS4 was already the love of the games media.
I can understand it's great not to have DRM, but to only talk about one, when there are two are following the DRM free policy, is a bit... less imparcial for what you expect the media to be. But ok...

I seriously hope not.
If they do the Fusion, their revenue and profits will surely go up, for one, so i hope they keep online free. And maybe actually advertise that! :)

yup :)



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Teeqoz said:
Avro1958 said:
First off it would be suicide for Nintendo to release a new console before 2018....

If they release it to soon they will:

- Alienate the WiiU supporters they have now
- When the next round of consoles from Sony and MS come out Nintendo will be in the same boat they are now with the WiiU.
- Consoles NEED to be released within months of each other not years.

These risks are what will prevent Nintendo from releasing to soon. Besides the WiiU is doing fine enough, the only people that seem to be having an issue with it are people that are to hung up on how a game looks rather then the fun behind it. If you are buying a WiiU for 3rd party games then I am sorry, that's your fault for not looking into things further. Nintendo has always been about first party games first. I buy Nintendo for the 1st party games... I have a PC/PS4 for multiplats and other exclusives.

Nintendo is in no rush to push out a new console anyway, they made enough money on the WiiU to "sit a gen out" as some people seem to think.


Nintendo hasn't made money on the Wii U at all. They're currently loosing money at a quite rapid pace.


Maybe for now, but the system is not all that old and they made enough money off the Wii that they could take it up the pooper for a gen.... They would loose more by releasing a console before 2018 then EVER hoping to gain. It will not happen.



Avro1958 said:
Teeqoz said:
Avro1958 said:
First off it would be suicide for Nintendo to release a new console before 2018....

If they release it to soon they will:

- Alienate the WiiU supporters they have now
- When the next round of consoles from Sony and MS come out Nintendo will be in the same boat they are now with the WiiU.
- Consoles NEED to be released within months of each other not years.

These risks are what will prevent Nintendo from releasing to soon. Besides the WiiU is doing fine enough, the only people that seem to be having an issue with it are people that are to hung up on how a game looks rather then the fun behind it. If you are buying a WiiU for 3rd party games then I am sorry, that's your fault for not looking into things further. Nintendo has always been about first party games first. I buy Nintendo for the 1st party games... I have a PC/PS4 for multiplats and other exclusives.

Nintendo is in no rush to push out a new console anyway, they made enough money on the WiiU to "sit a gen out" as some people seem to think.


Nintendo hasn't made money on the Wii U at all. They're currently loosing money at a quite rapid pace.


Maybe for now, but the system is not all that old and they made enough money off the Wii that they could take it up the pooper for a gen.... They would loose more by releasing a console before 2018 then EVER hoping to gain. It will not happen.

what ur saying doesnt really make sense, why does Nintendo NEED to give Wii U a 6 year life? SNES/N64/GC all had 5 years. GBA only had 3.5 years and the successor went on to be the best selling handheld of all time. Xbox had 4 years and its successor went on to sell nearly 4x as much and gained a ton of marketshare.

Nintendo can easily get away with releasing a successor after only 4-5 years as long as Nintendo themselves releases a solid amount of there own ip.



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Nintendo really doesn't make "hardcore" game machines in the sense that every Nintendo game machine is aimed first and foremost at the family demographic. The N64 is probably the most "hardcore" game machine they've ever made, and even by the end of that generation, you could get the N64 is more candy-colored models.

But saying "well just make a new Wiimote like craze" is kind of a non-sequitor, it's like saying to make a successful basketball team you just need Michael Jordan and another good player. Or like saying to be rich you just need an idea like Facebook. Well ... yeah, no duh. Fads like motion gaming come around once every 10-15 years IMO.

Saying you need that and actually doing it is two different things.

Yes a Fusion device will probably sell less than a Wii U + 3DS ... but even if it sells 80-85 million (between all variants), it will be a strong success and make Nintendo a boat load of money as long as they're not dumb enough to anchor it with some expensive gimmick.



If Nintendo makes their own version of the ps4 count me in. I really don't care what it sells.



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