people are getting used to hearing the racism. this is bad.
please , don't call them "islamic" , they are not muslums , they claim to be that , or they belive that , but they have nothing from islam .
i hope anyone who kill people , children , ....... would die and get exterminated , whatever religion they claim , or whatever country is backing them up .
VXIII said:
1 - Violence in self defence, yes. The Surah is clear about that. Why do you ignore that ? 2 - True, That's why having knowledge about the circumstances surrounding the event is important, feel free to check the validity of what I tell you. 3- You keep ignoring the true meaning and taking things out of context , It is a war agains muslims, the Surah says kill who tries to kill you and don't take prisoners, they will just fight you again. 4- Banu Qurayza betrayed the alliance with muslims and conspired agaist theIslam. Only warriors were killed. Here is a small text from Bukhari book. "The Prophet said, "O Sad! These people have agreed to accept your verdict." Sad said, "I judge that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as captives." The Prophet said, "You have given a judgment similar to Allah's Judgment (or the King's judgment)."Sahih al-Bukhari," Again, Please read about the Islamic history, don't just read to people who criticize it. |
Even if I concede to every one of your points it still clearly shows that Islam is a religion of violence and not peace.
Yes those were the times and given that Muhammed was just a normal con artist or deluded moron he behaved like a normal person in those times who did not receive instruction from a god like being.
This is the Game of Thrones
Where you either win
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MohammadBadir said:
That has more to do with the word Jihad being seen as synonymous with the words "Crazy Muslim bomber" by some people, even though that's far from what Jihad actually means. Heck, the fact that ISIS kills Muslims, let alone Christians and the like, invalidates this by default. |
They don't consider them true Muslims so they are not in their minds invalidating their belief's.
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or you DIE
| VXIII said: You are mixing the pages. Jews =/= Israel. I know Jews have a long history in the land along with many other populations. Jews are not a nation, they don't have a Jewish land. It is a religion. Religion doesn't not inherit a land. There is no "Islamic land" if an Islamic country decided to abandon Islam, the land still belong to them. When I said stolen land I ment stolen from the people. Jews can be part of those people if it is their land. Israel can't, they are invaders.
About the settlements, one link is enough. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44045#.VDGPhCPfom8
How exactly does that support the actions of IS? Jihad meaning is to make an effort. Also as I said, there is no war that was started by the prophet, not even once. In Quran there is a lot of Suras that describe the time of war, making witty comment about that won't alter history. |
Jihad has very clearly been defined from the beginning as holy war and been used to allow Muslims to conquer other lands through violence. During this time their supposed god chose to do nothing given that if revealing himself to one man in private doesnt convince people of his existence then what could he have possibly done?
All you are doing is re-defining history because what Islam was in its inception was a product of the times which plagirised both christian and jewish beliefs.
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| bonzobanana said: People write that islam is a kind religion and I know there is some positive beliefs in it but Mohammed can only be described as evil and the actions of IS fit in completely with the actions of Mohammed. He hunted and enslaved people, he had sexual intercourse with a girl of 9 or 10, he decapitated hundreds of people that unconditionally surrendered. He believed it was ok to rape women. To many like Martin Luther he was the anti-christ. The reason islam is the source of such violence and account for a statistically higher proportion of prison populations surely must be related to what is a dark religion. Don't get me wrong I'm an atheist and there is horrific violence in many religious texts but still islam seems the darkest. In the UK when surveyed 40% of muslims wanted sharia law and a large percentage would not state their preference. The world needs to try to prevent people being indoctrinated into religion. It's time has passed and it is too dangerous in the modern world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad |
the god of the bible slaughtered huundreds of men, women and children some of them ( first born children ) innocent of so called sin
the god of the bible denounces homosexuality as a lifestyle punishable with stoning
i could sit here all day and state how chrisitanity is just as if not more evil a religion in comparison to islam
anyone who's looking at this objectively realises that all 3 abrahamic religions come from the same source and therefore are extremely similar
also to say that without religion that there would suddenly be a reduction in evil acts is also just as silly as to nitpick one religion on its flaws
the fact is that everyone has both good and bad inside of them and as a result there always be murder, abuse etc etc etc
| thismeintiel said: So, for others to label Islam the religion of peace is really ridiculous. Even the word means submission. Of course, some do move to other countries and become modernized, which should be commended. Others, however, wish to bring Sharia law to those western countries, which I find pretty sad. Worse, yet, people wish to force others to be PC, and to even criticize Islam is deemed racist. We even arrested a man for making an anti-Islam video tape. Something that would NEVER happen if that video was about Christianity, Hinduism, etc. |
what a load of bullshit
there are still places in the united states where simply being gay for example can get a person death threats because of the nature of devout christians
the same applies to being critical of the bible
and that's actually where the fear of gays comes from for these people... its that the lifestyle conflcits with their concepts of masculinity as mandated by the bible
and lets not forget that your christian presidents have killed far more people than muslims have in the past couple centuries
often under false pretenses and yet most of you still won't wake up and because of media programming you think its all because of muslims
the emphasising of all things negative about muslims is done intentionally to drive a wedge between you and them
if people are dehumanised through the empahasising of their negative attributes and made to seem very different to you then you'll care less about what happens to them
so when your government tells you that in order to uphold freedom and democracy we'll have to fly over to a country full of people you consider at least subconsciously to be subhuman in comparison to yourself and blow them up, you'll cheer them on
that's whats going on here i honestly can't believe the nonsense i'm reading in this thread
another tactic to motivate the citizens of a country to support the slaughtering of those from another is to fake an attack on them and apportion blame to your target
that was the purpose of 9/11 it was not muslims from iraq or syria or lybia or whatever it was done to plant fear and hate of those people
the evidence is there for anyone interested in not being a brainwashed sheep
3 buildings were destroyed that day, 2 were struck with planes
building 7 was the third https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg
and up till now there's no explanation for how it fell and most aren't even aware of it... and that's just one example of things that don't add up with the event
and yet most people don't care they just think yelling kill those dirty muslims!!! will fix everything lol
o_O.Q said:
there are still places in the united states where simply being gay for example can get a person death threats because of the nature of devout christians the same applies to being critical of the bible and that's actually where the fear of gays comes from for these people... its that the lifestyle conflcits with their concepts of masculinity as mandated by the bible and lets not forget that your christian presidents have killed far more people than muslims have in the past couple centuries often under false pretenses and yet most of you still won't wake up and because of media programming you think its all because of muslims |
BWAHAHAHA! Yea, possibly getting death threats (sorry, this just doesn't happen as much as some who wish to demonize those in America want to believe), is the EXACT same as a death penalty supported by the government, as well as the majority of those who live in that country. There's also the fact that those who would threaten violence would not only be frowned upon by the general public, but also would be prosecuted by the county/state. And that's not even mentioning the complete lack of respect those countries have for women's rights. It's time for them to get out of the Dark Ages. And I think you are the one who needs to wake up.
Also, this BS about the media "brainwashing" the public is just that, BS. You do realize that a lot of the big wigs in media are left-leaning. Most of those often sympathize with the muslims who are not moderate, sometimes even the extremists, and quite often look down on Israel. It's also not other countries faults that the terrorist cowards hide their shit in public areas, just for the exact reason of crying about civilian casualties when those countries try to take out there munitions and bases. No other country pulls that shit, since its completely evil. They also have a sense of respect for the lives of women and children, and do not use them as shields/bombs. And trust me, if the terrorists were actually able to get their hands on some really good missiles/bombs, they would greatly move the scales of deaths in their favor. Fortunately, we have been pretty successful in not allowing them to get those in their possession.
thismeintiel said:
BWAHAHAHA! Yea, possibly getting death threats (sorry, this just doesn't happen as much as some who wish to demonize those in America want to believe), is the EXACT same as a death penalty supported by the government, as well as the majority of those who live in that country. There's also the fact that those who would threaten violence would not only be frowned upon by the general public, but also would be prosecuted by the county/state. And that's not even mentioning the complete lack of respect those countries have for women's rights. It's time for them to get out of the Dark Ages. And I think you are the one who needs to wake up. Also, this BS about the media "brainwashing" the public is just that, BS. You do realize that a lot of the big wigs in media are left-leaning. Most of those often sympathize with the muslims who are not moderate, sometimes even the extremists, and quite often look down on Israel. It's also not other countries faults that the terrorist cowards hide their shit in public areas, just for the exact reason of crying about civilian casualties when those countries try to take out there munitions and bases. No other country pulls that shit, since its completely evil. They also have a sense of respect for the lives of women and children, and do not use them as shields/bombs. And trust me, if the terrorists were actually able to get their hands on some really good missiles/bombs, they would greatly move the scales of deaths in their favor. Fortunately, we have been pretty successful in not allowing them to get those in their possession. |
"Also, this BS about the media "brainwashing" the public is just that, BS."
well you aren't doing a good job of demonstrating it buddy let me tell you
"It's also not other countries faults that the terrorist cowards hide their shit in public areas, just for the exact reason of crying about civilian casualties when those countries try to take out there munitions and bases. No other country pulls that shit, since its completely evil. "
uh huh but why are they "terrorists"?
how was this conflict started ?
what are their motivations and the motivations of your country for these conflicts?
to me its quite clear that those questions are the most important
and we already have loads of evidence that your country has lied about their motivations for seeking conflicts with these countries
the most obvious examples being the war with Iraq... the successive wars with Lybia, Syria etc are no different
this links back into why i call you brainwashed
you are brainwashed because even though its clear your leaders are lying you still continue believing this bullshit
again i will keep repeating this this is why they can attack your fellow citizens leaving clear evidence of what they've done and you can't bring yourselves to consider that maybe you are being deceived
this is why i can post a video like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGkFMho6Co
which shows general wesley clark back in 07 talking about their plans for attacking various countries and most people don't want to consider what it means...
instead we'll just sit down and have the media do our thinking for us
"No other country pulls that shit, since its completely evil. "
ok... so placing weaponry near civilians is more evil than killing them?
i'm not even going to bother replying to the rest of that trash
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