lol, I hope that you're joking @ the bolded. WiiU sold 1.5m units in november and december last year on the back of SM3DW. And it was on a year where it's baseline was basically 20k all year long. It's baseline nearly doubled this year ever since mario kart. It can easily achieve 2.5-3m sales in November and December alone on the back of all the new bundles, amiibo and smash.

Amiibo ? Is that software or an accessory ? Users here should know better than to rely on anything but software to sell consoles ... Like the saying goes, "software sells hardware". 

Don't expect the baseline increase to translate for holidays too cause that's a different beast altogether.

Isn't Smash also on the 3DS ? The guys at Japan don't seem to have any issues playing that game on their 3DS and I'm sure keen to find out what the rest of the world thinks too ... 

Forget my 2.5m-3m sales in November and December remark. I was replying to the fact that you said that wiiU would struggle to sell another 1m units throughout the rest of the year. So you're telling me that October+November+December this year with Mario kart 8 and Smash, that wiiU won't even do 2/3rds of what it did last year in the final 2 months of 2013? 

Also, regarding Amiibo, accessories do sell consoles. Just look at the wii fit phenomenon or the kinect 1.0.

With the WII U's current image as it is I would be surprised to see it performing the same as last year ... 

How is Smash supposed to sell WII U's when the 3DS version is getting in the way of that happening ? After all, it's the CHEAPEST way to play Smash and tons of consumers think that the 3DS is the higher quality system. 

Yes these are accessories but what exactly gave value to those accessories ? It's none of other than software ... Wii Fit gave value to the balance board much like how kinect sports gave value to the Kinect.

Just what does Amiibo intend to add for games ? 

Globally, PSV is doing similar numbers to 2013. In 2013 it did around 1.5M between Oct-Dec. Based on that I'd say it has a chance to reach 10M by end of the year so I pick Vita as hitting 10M first.

Another way to look at it is estimate that half of yearly sales are the holidays, so estimates by end of the year:

1st PSV 1.51 * 2 + 7.36 =10.38M
2nd Wii U 1.84 * 2 + 5.42 = 9.10M
3rd XB1 2.44 * 2 + 3.06 = 7.94M

WiiU is selling to Nintendo gamers and ONLY Nintendo gamers. I have yet to meet a single Nintendo fan who told me that he wouldn't be buying the wiiU version of smash due to the 3DS version ( EDIT: I know, my friends/ the people I know don't represent the entire world, however, I'm pretty confident that the wiiU version will sell much better in the west compared to the 3ds version which will have a much bigger japanese audience). In fact, the only place where I could see this happening is in Japan because it's very mobile/handheld centric. 

As for the wiiU image, what? If anything, it's image actually increased by a lot every since e3 2014. 

I'd actually argue that it's the Wii Fit balance board that sold by itself rather then the software. Same thing with the kinect, the inovation at that time (recognition of your movements without any controllers) was what sold the accessory and the xbox 360 that got bought due to the kinect.

I just cannot see the Wii U outselling the Xbone this holiday season or reaching 10 M by this holiday season.

The one region where the Vita has a chance to see a significant boost this holiday is the same region that's getting the New 3DS this year.

I'll go with WiiU getting there first.

Nintendo Fans =/= Average consumers 

Second of all just what exactly is a "Nintendo gamer" ? Those who exclusively play on Nintendo platforms ? Those who buy and play Nintendo games ? Those guys that you speak from the internet mostly ? What you're describing is so vague ...

Sure you can say that but if it was the "innovation" rather than the "software" that sold those peripherals as well as consoles then why exactly did Sony fail with their Eyetoy and PS Move ? Just how exactly do you know if it's the idea of novelty that's selling those peripherals ? 

It doesn't need to outsell Xb1 to reach 10m units first. And it has more then a fair chance to reach 10m this holiday season. I don't know why so many people have trouble seeing this. It's currently at roughly 2.9m units away from 10m. Last year, it sold 1.5m units in November+December on the back of SM3DW, a much smaller IP (Sales wise) then smash bros. This year, we've got Mario kart 8 and smash bros. . How is it so hard to imagine that it can sell 2.5m-3m units between october-november-december?