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ethomaz said:

JayWood2010 said:

THe loot system certainly was one of them.  There should never have been Rare's coming from legendaries, and it should never have taken them this long to update it to fix that.  I've had 7 legendary drops.  6 of them turned into Rare, and 1 of them was legendary.....but for a class I dont even use.  All my armor comes from me buying them.  You understand that a lot of people arent going to play months on end, but will only play for the first few weeks of the game's life if they arent happy.  And then removing the loot cave, that people liked probably wasnt the best idea either.

The drop rate itself is/was fine.  Its what came out of them that wasnt

 

The loot system is one of the most smart I even see in these type of games.

1. It doesn't alianate good from bad players.
2. It doesn't alianate where you play the game... PVP, PVE, Public Evens, Strikes, etc... everything can get better gears playing what they like/want.
3. There are not only a unique way to get better gears... you can do a lot of different stufs and get the gears... it is not RNG like people says... the drop is but you can buy the gears via Crucible/Vangard/Faction marks... so you have alternatives.
4. It don't make you play a specific place/boss to get better gears... you play/kill any enemie in the game and get better gears.
5. The gears are progressive... you get better gears when you level up... most gears are in a range close to your level.

It is fair and well made... everybody benificiates from it... bad or good players had something that the other play didn't... from casual to hardcore.

Your example just show you choose to use the loot system from gridding... if you choose that you need to deal with the RNG... it is your choice... and until lvl 24 you get less Legendary because you don't need them yet (you need to level up your Rare gears first).

Well that explains why I've only got one Legendary. Still only Lvl 23.



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JayWood2010 said:

There was cutscenes revealed a year ago that were excluded as well as a recent patch that revealed that stuff was locked on the disc.

really?  Im sorry but ive played plenty of multiplayer games over the years and id easily mark this as the most unbalanced multiplayer ive ever seen.  How in the world anybody could say this is balanced is beyond me 

PS Fusion rifle, and shotgun are def not skilled weapons.  Theyre a part of the reason the game is unbalanced

This video is funny.

The weapon is amazing in PVE but it balanced in PVP and what make it players so good in Crucible is the guy behind it... he is one so much skilled... he is in the top Crucible players.

Try to play like him with the Vex Mythoclast in Crucible and you will see you won't have half of the success.

This guy play good even with bad weapons lol

 

And no... Shutgun and Fusion are not unbalanced... you die from these weapons because you are not skilled enough... I have a hard time to die from both... I dance in front of fusion rifles and the enemie most can touch me with it and the shutgun if it can't get near you it is useless.

The Bladerunner super that most guys things is OP it is not... the guy using it became so much defenseless... there are dozen of tatics to kill him if you don't get desesperate from the easy Rocke Launcher to just avid it jumping and shoting his head.



BTW I can't wait to play the unbalanced PVP in Destiny.

Iron Banner is coming.

I need to level up my gears for Crucible to be competitive... I just didn't do that before because it won't change anything but for Iron Banner you can't be competitive without better and stronge gears.



JayWood2010 said:

THe loot system certainly was one of them.  There should never have been Rare's coming from legendaries, and it should never have taken them this long to update it to fix that.  I've had 7 legendary drops.  6 of them turned into Rare, and 1 of them was legendary.....but for a class I dont even use.  All my armor comes from me buying them.  You understand that a lot of people arent going to play months on end, but will only play for the first few weeks of the game's life if they arent happy.  And then removing the loot cave, that people liked probably wasnt the best idea either.

The drop rate itself is/was fine.  Its what came out of them that wasnt

Apparently the loot system is perfect and needs no changes, unless Bungie decides to change something, THEN its perfect and nothing is wrong with it (until the next change).

Also, you touch on another glaring flaw in the game. Why are we getting shit for other classes, if there is no way to gift/trade? I am not going to bother with this game long enough to level up a Hunter or Titan. So either just give me Warlock shit, or let me trade/gift. That's just one of the many social aspects this "social game" is missing.

I agree the drop rate was fine, but I never had a problem with RNG either. It was exciting to take 4-5 blues to the Cryptarc and have no idea if you're going to get a legendary. I can see why it would bother some people though. Now they are apparently adding more blue and purple drops to some of the strikes, that's great. Next they just need to fix the shard and energy issue, or allow us to grind for more marks to buy gear to break down into shards or energy.

And LOL @ someone saying fusion rifles/shotguns are skill weapons. Those are the 2 easiest weapons to use in PVP.



LudicrousSpeed said:

Apparently the loot system is perfect and needs no changes, unless Bungie decides to change something, THEN its perfect and nothing is wrong with it (until the next change).

Also, you touch on another glaring flaw in the game. Why are we getting shit for other classes, if there is no way to gift/trade? I am not going to bother with this game long enough to level up a Hunter or Titan. So either just give me Warlock shit, or let me trade/gift. That's just one of the many social aspects this "social game" is missing.

I agree the drop rate was fine, but I never had a problem with RNG either. It was exciting to take 4-5 blues to the Cryptarc and have no idea if you're going to get a legendary. I can see why it would bother some people though. Now they are apparently adding more blue and purple drops to some of the strikes, that's great. Next they just need to fix the shard and energy issue, or allow us to grind for more marks to buy gear to break down into shards or energy.

And LOL @ someone saying fusion rifles/shotguns are skill weapons. Those are the 2 easiest weapons to use in PVP.

Why it is supposed to you play with more than one class... I have three.

About the shotgun and fusion... you need strategy to use them.. and in the case of fusion you need to predict how the enemie will move to kill it and because the cooldown if you miss you shot you are dead.

So yes... non-skilled players can't kill me with these weapons (unless of course they get me from back).



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ethomaz said:

JayWood2010 said:

 


This is why i dont take you serious.  Not skilled enough?  IN about every game ive ever played i manage to get 2.0+ K/D.

Your K/D in Destiny is 0.68.  965 kills and 1425 deaths.  GG ethomaz.

So you continue to defend this game



JayWood2010 said:

This is why i dont take you serious.  Not skilled enough?  IN about every game ive ever played i manage to get 2.0+ K/D.

Your K/D in Destiny is 0.68.  965 kills and 1425 deaths.  GG ethomaz.

So you continue to defend this game

My kill death is wrong because sometimes I need to do something and get killed... others time I didn't bother enough... other I'm played to increase the grimorie like kill only with grenades so I got killed a lot... my kill death playing it is 2-3 most of time playing serious.

Now just because you are bad in PVP it is unbalanced?

Do you want to play with me? You choose my gears and I will show to you I can kill you with any.



JayWood2010 said:
ethomaz said:

JayWood2010 said:

 


This is why i dont take you serious.  Not skilled enough?  IN about every game ive ever played i manage to get 2.0+ K/D.

Your K/D in Destiny is 0.68.  965 kills and 1425 deaths.
 GG ethomaz.

So you continue to defend this game

Holy shnikes. But.. non-skilled players can't kill him with the easiest weapons in the game to use. I mean, makes perfect sense.

And I just watched the video you linked. Holy shit. That's why I don't bother with PVP unless my PVE bounties are on cooldown. Shit is extremely unbalanced and just a mess. Etho's defending of the video is even more hilarious. Apparently that guy is one of the top PVP players around, and would be good with any gun. So it seems we should take his word about PVP over Ethomaz and his 0.68 K/D, right? Well even that amazing player is just agast at the ridiculous power of the weapon in PVP. Which should tell even the most hardcore defender of the game that something is up.

I love Destiny threads.



LudicrousSpeed said:

Holy shnikes. But.. non-skilled players can't kill him with the easiest weapons in the game to use. I mean, makes perfect sense.

And I just watched the video you linked. Holy shit. That's why I don't bother with PVP unless my PVE bounties are on cooldown. Shit is extremely unbalanced and just a mess. Etho's defending of the video is even more hilarious. Apparently that guy is one of the top PVP players around, and would be good with any gun. So it seems we should take his word about PVP over Ethomaz and his 0.68 K/D, right? Well even that amazing player is just agast at the ridiculous power of the weapon in PVP. Which should tell even the most hardcore defender of the game that something is up.

I love Destiny threads.

lol

I will give you a example...

I play games like to increase the grimoire just to kill guys with headshots... I aim and go for headshots for full matches and get killed a lot... or when I'm doing some bounties in PVP like kills 30 guys with grenades... I got killed a lot.

I'm fine with my performance and it is not because the game is unbalanced.



Totally dude. And I have totally never heard the "when i play serious i dominate!" type excuses either.

So apparently the PVP is perfectly balanced and awesome and one of the best ever, and yet you spend a vast majority of your time in it just fucking around.

Makes sense.