What features do you want most? | |||
| Bring back Dual Screen | 34 | 17.17% | |
| More powerful than today's mobiles | 115 | 58.08% | |
| All of New 3DS' buttons | 14 | 7.07% | |
| 3D functionality | 13 | 6.57% | |
| Gyroscope | 0 | 0% | |
| Improved OS | 21 | 10.61% | |
| Total: | 197 | ||
| Locknuts said: HDMI out. I hate gaming on a small screen |
Just play on home console. Isn't that simple?
Most Anticipated Games on Wii U
Super Smash Bros. Wii U, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, Zelda Wii U, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, 3D Metroid game, another 3D Mario game.
Most Anticipated Games on 3DS
Super Smash Bros. 3DS, Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, Xenoblade Chronicles(N3DS).
4peace said:
Just play on home console. Isn't that simple? |
Not if the games don't come to it. 3DS has an awesome library. A 3DS player for the Wii U would do nicely though.
the_dengle said:
Apple's business model works for them. They are selling a phone, not a game system. Even if Nintendo literally turned their handhelds into iPhones, they don't have the brand power to compete in that space. No one who isn't interested in a DS is going to buy a Nintendo phone. I will never spend $300 on handheld gaming hardware -- ever. I will never pay $30/month for the privelege of playing games on a system I own -- ever. And I will never buy a handheld console that starts warping the minute I put it in my pocket -- ever. You want Nintendo to copy Apple's product, but the reason Apple can afford to make and sell this product is because the average customer spends over $1,000 on each phone. $300 + $30/month x 24 months. Apple is sapping their customers dry. Nintendo can't trick people into spending that much on anything, no matter what their hardware does. Nintendo can't sell a console MORE expensive to make than the iPhone for $200 or less. They'd be taking a massive loss on every unit sold. That's not a business model, it's a suicide attempt. EDIT: Sorry, it appears the cheapest data plan you can buy with your iPhone is actually $50/month, not $30. So that's more like $1,500 to own that piece of shit for two years. |
I don't understand why you keep saying you have to pay monthly fees. The iPod touch is and has always been around $200-$300 dollars and requires no fees at all. Hell, a brand new iPad, which is 10inches, starts at $499.99.
| prayformojo said:
I don't understand why you keep saying you have to pay monthly fees. The iPod touch is and has always been around $200-$300 dollars and requires no fees at all. Hell, a brand new iPad, which is 10inches, starts at $499.99. |
You didn't say you wanted an iPod touch with buttons, or an iPad with buttons. When I pointed out that buying an iPhone (for less than $600 anyway) requires signing up for a 3G subscription, rather than object you said we shouldn't question Apple's business model.
Considering you chose the iPhone 6 Plus and not an iPod touch, I took it to mean you wanted 3G in your next Nintendo handheld. Would you care to amend your original statement?
A real second analog stick and Kid Icarus: Uprising 2
the_dengle said:
You didn't say you wanted an iPod touch with buttons, or an iPad with buttons. When I pointed out that buying an iPhone (for less than $600 anyway) requires signing up for a 3G subscription, rather than object you said we shouldn't question Apple's business model. Considering you chose the iPhone 6 Plus and not an iPod touch, I took it to mean you wanted 3G in your next Nintendo handheld. Would you care to amend your original statement? |
What I meant by my original statment is selling a handheld that is basically the same tech with the same quality and build as an iphone/ipod/ipad with buttons. I never said anything about cost. I was just talking about the specs, quality and stability of an ios product.
You have to remember, Android is the Windows of mobile OS. You can hack the fuck out of it, make it do what you want, use any kind of media you want, drag and drop with ease etc... but it's fragmented and unstable. Nintendo is NOT an open system type of company. They believe, like Apple (whether you like it or not), that you make hardware and software and lock it down for a smooth experience. They were doing the walled garden well before ios. So, imo, releasing an ipod like device with the same quality OS and hardware would be a pretty easy transition.
The one thing I DO know is, whatever they release, it needs to look and act like a smart phone. It can have buttons, but this idea of selling uber cheap devices with more than decade old specs... it's a dead end. I buy their handhelds, but I'm old as shit. Kids are slowly tuning out.
| prayformojo said: What I meant by my original statment is selling a handheld that is basically the same tech with the same quality and build as an iphone/ipod/ipad with buttons. I never said anything about cost. I was just talking about the specs, quality and stability of an ios product. You have to remember, Android is the Windows of mobile OS. You can hack the fuck out of it, make it do what you want, use any kind of media you want, drag and drop with ease etc... but it's fragmented and unstable. Nintendo is NOT an open system type of company. They believe, like Apple (whether you like it or not), that you make hardware and software and lock it down for a smooth experience. They were doing the walled garden well before ios. So, imo, releasing an ipod like device with the same quality OS and hardware would be a pretty easy transition. The one thing I DO know is, whatever they release, it needs to look and act like a smart phone. It can have buttons, but this idea of selling uber cheap devices with more than decade old specs... it's a dead end. I buy their handhelds, but I'm old as shit. Kids are slowly tuning out. |
If it's the operating system you're talking about, then sure, it can be like iOS. But you pointed out yourself that Nintendo's operating systems already share design philosophies with iOS.
As I mentioned, I don't think the iPhone 6 Plus is a great example to use as "quality hardware," when I have a 25-year-old GameBoy that still works (now that's quality hardware), yet an iPhone can't last a week in my pocket without getting warped. Nintendo's hardware has to be much more durable than any Apple device I've ever used. It's one of the reasons the clamshell design is so smart: it's kid-proof.
I believe you're wrong about selling cheap devices with low specs being a dead end. If the market was interested in high-end, expensive products, the Vita would've been a huge hit. And if $200 is what you consider "uber cheap," I can understand why you might think it's a dead end. The market would respond much more favorably to an even cheaper machine. The idea is to get into the impulse-purchase birthday/Christmas gift range.
Kids don't care about specs, and parents care even less about them. Not all parents will buy a $300 toy for their kid. Show them a Pokemon and Mario Kart machine for half that price, they will not "tune out." Like it or not, this is a big part of Nintendo's handheld market.
As for the high school- and college-aged demographic, they're the ones I don't see hopping on the Nintendo bandwagon. They'll get some of those guys, but most will already own a smartphone, and will be content to play games on that. Again, though, here a lower price point would help. This is the market that would have bought the Vita en masse if what they really wanted was a really powerful handheld gaming machine.
Nintendo will not design a console to look like another product. They will not help people hide their shame by disguising their game console as a smart phone. They want everyone around you to know that you're playing a Nintendo -- that's free advertising.
I only want 2 things
1) Something to play the handheld games on tv, either plugging the handheld to the tv, or something like the super gameboy or game boy advance adapter to play gba games on gamecube.
2) I want tiers like those of Smogon for online Pokemon battles. At least a tier for "weak" pokemon with no mega evolutions.
- Touch screen on both screens
- 3D on both screens (lol)
- Better speakers
Pocky Lover Boy!
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