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o_O.Q said:

i don't know much about the china situation yet but to me it all follows a pattern - you move against US interest and they'll come after you

but not overtly obviously because their actions would then be condemned and they'll lose the support of their people

so in order to gain approval they seed conflicts in these countries so they can gain support for taking action while destabilising the ruling powers, taking them out and installing their own puppets

The Hong Kong situation has been boiling for awhile now because China is going to break its promise on the 1 Nation, 2 System agreement by only placing the Pro Mainland candidates in the upcoming election barring any moderates from running. This is not about overthrowing the current government, they just want a fair election.



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The Fury said:
o_O.Q said:

i don't know much about the china situation yet but to me it all follows a pattern - you move against US interest and they'll come after you

but not overtly obviously because their actions would then be condemned and they'll lose the support of their people

so in order to gain approval they seed conflicts in these countries so they can gain support for taking action while destabilising the ruling powers, taking them out and installing their own puppets

Don't read too much into this protest compared to other protests. Just a case of China wanting to control candidates for an election, while the people wanting to vote for their candidates. China promised it for 2017 but are backing out, so people are protesting.

 

yeah as i said i haven't really looked into this too deep

but looking at the wider context

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/25-06-2012/121471-russia_china_syria_libya-0/

 

i was atually wondering if something would also happen in relation to china



Anyway, it's oblivious that the writer of the article doesn't even know the reason why Hong Kong revolted.



tiffac said:
o_O.Q said:

i don't know much about the china situation yet but to me it all follows a pattern - you move against US interest and they'll come after you

but not overtly obviously because their actions would then be condemned and they'll lose the support of their people

so in order to gain approval they seed conflicts in these countries so they can gain support for taking action while destabilising the ruling powers, taking them out and installing their own puppets

The Hong Kong situation has been boiling for awhile now because China is going to break its promise on the 1 Nation, 2 System agreement by only placing the Pro Mainland candidates in the upcoming election barring any moderates from running. This is not about overthrowing the current government, they just want a fair election.

 

yes and it was said that unrest was brewing in Ukraine, Iraq, Venezuela etc etc etc because the government for some reason was unfair

and yes that may be true, but isn't it strange that anytime this is reported to happen there's the strange coincidence that the country at hand is also moving against US interests?

anyway as i said i haven't really looked into this too deep and i don't really know much about the situation

 

but as i told another poster

" looking at the wider context

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/25-06-2012/121471-russia_china_syria_libya-0/

 

i was atually wondering if something would also happen in relation to china"



So now it's the US's fault even when people get upset that they're being cheated out of the rights they were promised? :p

There are plenty of things to criticize the US for, but blaming them for every time a bird poops or someone trips on a pebble just trivializes the real things they do wrong.



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o_O.Q said:
tiffac said:
o_O.Q said:

i don't know much about the china situation yet but to me it all follows a pattern - you move against US interest and they'll come after you

but not overtly obviously because their actions would then be condemned and they'll lose the support of their people

so in order to gain approval they seed conflicts in these countries so they can gain support for taking action while destabilising the ruling powers, taking them out and installing their own puppets

The Hong Kong situation has been boiling for awhile now because China is going to break its promise on the 1 Nation, 2 System agreement by only placing the Pro Mainland candidates in the upcoming election barring any moderates from running. This is not about overthrowing the current government, they just want a fair election.

 

yes and it was said that unrest was brewing in Ukraine, Iraq, Venezuela etc etc etc because the government for some reason was unfair

and yes that may be true, but isn't it strange that anytime this is reported to happen there's the strange coincidence that the country at hand is also moving against US interests?

anyway as i said i haven't really looked into this too deep and i don't really know much about the situation

 

but as i told another poster

" looking at the wider context

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/25-06-2012/121471-russia_china_syria_libya-0/

 

i was atually wondering if something would also happen in relation to china"


Well China has been trying to take territorial waters from its neighbors, so if this is done by the US against China then so be it because China has imperialistic dreams here in Asia and it shows.



Double post gawd my net sux! i wonder if this is the US fault too hahahaha. I kid, I kid xD



Its funny how something you don't like immediately becomes 'weird', especially when it comes from 'crazy russian'.
TBH i didn't needed your opinions on this question (since I already have my opinion on the situation). I was interested how Ron Paul institute (which I gave link to) treated in USA. Sadly no comments on the source...



tiffac said:
o_O.Q said:
tiffac said:
o_O.Q said:

i don't know much about the china situation yet but to me it all follows a pattern - you move against US interest and they'll come after you

but not overtly obviously because their actions would then be condemned and they'll lose the support of their people

so in order to gain approval they seed conflicts in these countries so they can gain support for taking action while destabilising the ruling powers, taking them out and installing their own puppets

The Hong Kong situation has been boiling for awhile now because China is going to break its promise on the 1 Nation, 2 System agreement by only placing the Pro Mainland candidates in the upcoming election barring any moderates from running. This is not about overthrowing the current government, they just want a fair election.

 

yes and it was said that unrest was brewing in Ukraine, Iraq, Venezuela etc etc etc because the government for some reason was unfair

and yes that may be true, but isn't it strange that anytime this is reported to happen there's the strange coincidence that the country at hand is also moving against US interests?

anyway as i said i haven't really looked into this too deep and i don't really know much about the situation

 

but as i told another poster

" looking at the wider context

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/20/russia-china-bankdeal.html

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/25-06-2012/121471-russia_china_syria_libya-0/

 

i was atually wondering if something would also happen in relation to china"


Well China has been trying to take territorial waters from its neighbors, so if this is done by the US against China then so be it because China has imperialistic dreams here in Asia and it shows.


fair enough



Sharu said:
Its funny how something you don't like immediately becomes 'weird', especially when it comes from 'crazy russian'.
TBH i didn't needed your opinions on this question (since I already have my opinion on the situation). I was interested how Ron Paul institute (which I gave link to) treated in USA. Sadly no comments on the source...


You should have put that on your 1st post and created the topic around that because your real intent isn't obvious. Well to me anyway then again I'm slow some times hahahaha xD