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What do you think about VGChartz tracking of the PS4?

3M+ overtracked 44 6.89%
 
2M+ overtracked 15 2.35%
 
1M+ overtracked 38 5.95%
 
Spot on! 53 8.29%
 
1M+ undertracked 300 46.95%
 
2M+ undertracked 37 5.79%
 
3M+ undertracked 39 6.10%
 
Who cares? 47 7.36%
 
I do care, but won't vote. 44 6.89%
 
TL;DR 21 3.29%
 
Total:638
wary-wallaroo on 01 October 2014

Yup, sounds about right. To this day, I still don't get why it's only PS consoles that seem to suffer from sometimes severe undertracking. Never seems to be an issue with Xbox, and hell, it's much more prone to being overtracked. I wonder if there's any truth to the whole Neogaf rumors about VGC's banning.

 

I'm sure VGC will put the X1 on top a few weeks this year, before inevitable correcting their mistakes in a few months to show that the X1 didn't actually win a single week. Hell, this week feels incredibly undertracked.



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Xeon on 01 October 2014

I think vgchartz has more difficulty accurately tracking PlayStation consoles because PlayStation is available in more markets. This includes smaller ones where it is more difficult to track as accurately.



wary-wallaroo on 01 October 2014
Xeon said:
I think vgchartz has more difficulty accurately tracking PlayStation consoles because PlayStation is available in more markets. This includes smaller ones where it is more difficult to track as accurately.


Sure, but that doesn't explain why, when actual, real numbers are released, they're so hesistant to update and why to this day they are still rather heavily undertracking the PS4 (and/or overtracking the X1)



vivster on 01 October 2014
wary-wallaroo said:
Xeon said:
I think vgchartz has more difficulty accurately tracking PlayStation consoles because PlayStation is available in more markets. This includes smaller ones where it is more difficult to track as accurately.


Sure, but that doesn't explain why, when actual, real numbers are released, they're so hesistant to update and why to this day they are still rather heavily undertracking the PS4 (and/or overtracking the X1)

That was explained in length by ioi.

The short version is that you can't just slap more units in countries where you can't verify or at least comprehend where the units are coming from. So he chooses slightly wrong but verifyable numbers over accurate but completely made up numbers.

Of course there are countries where undertracking is verifyable and still not adjusted. I assume that's because of different reasons.



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EricFabian on 01 October 2014

1M? not yet. I think PS4 is undertracked by 300~400k now



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Nate4Drake on 01 October 2014
EricFabian said:
1M? not yet. I think PS4 is undertracked by 300~400k now

Yeah.  But I think it's undertracked by 500-600k right now. I voted for 1m undertracked because it's the closest figure available.



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Arkaign on 01 October 2014

Voted 1M, which is what I feel is closest. Expect adjustments after NPD and PR, albeit slowly.



Arkaign on 01 October 2014
BraLoD said:
Arkaign said:
Voted 1M, which is what I feel is closest. Expect adjustments after NPD and PR, albeit slowly.


The thread is about numbers without adjustments.

It's written in the first line after the warning of the OP being huge.

Are anyone really reading it? :/

Yes, but I'm saying

(A) - I, as in me, believe that the current VGC numbers are ~1M undertracked currently for PS4.

and

(B)- I, as in me, believe that they will make further adjustments as more official data is released.

Poll question :

"What do you think about VGChartz tracking of the PS4?"

And so, that's what I think = A+B.



Gameuberking on 01 October 2014
vivster said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Xeon said:
I think vgchartz has more difficulty accurately tracking PlayStation consoles because PlayStation is available in more markets. This includes smaller ones where it is more difficult to track as accurately.


Sure, but that doesn't explain why, when actual, real numbers are released, they're so hesistant to update and why to this day they are still rather heavily undertracking the PS4 (and/or overtracking the X1)

That was explained in length by ioi.

The short version is that you can't just slap more units in countries where you can't verify or at least comprehend where the units are coming from. So he chooses slightly wrong but verifyable numbers over accurate but completely made up numbers.

Of course there are countries where undertracking is verifyable and still not adjusted. I assume that's because of different reasons.

A smoke and mirrors explanation, as they had no issue leaving undertracked Euro numbers and overtracked US becasue they "canceled" each other out.

Sure they can, they know a few Key markets through official means so its a simply adding the missing numbers to the rest.  



vivster on 01 October 2014
Gameuberking said:
vivster said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Xeon said:
I think vgchartz has more difficulty accurately tracking PlayStation consoles because PlayStation is available in more markets. This includes smaller ones where it is more difficult to track as accurately.


Sure, but that doesn't explain why, when actual, real numbers are released, they're so hesistant to update and why to this day they are still rather heavily undertracking the PS4 (and/or overtracking the X1)

That was explained in length by ioi.

The short version is that you can't just slap more units in countries where you can't verify or at least comprehend where the units are coming from. So he chooses slightly wrong but verifyable numbers over accurate but completely made up numbers.

Of course there are countries where undertracking is verifyable and still not adjusted. I assume that's because of different reasons.

A smoke and mirrors explanation, as they had no issue leaving undertracked Euro numbers and overtracked US becasue they "canceled" each other out.

Sure they can, they know a few Key markets through official means so its a simply adding the missing numbers to the rest.  

If that explanation is not good enough, what is your take?

Is ioi too stupid or too lazy? Or is he just a troll that is paid by Microsoft?



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