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Forums - Sales Discussion - 20th September Week (PS4 passes 11m on VGC)

celador on 30 September 2014
JayWood2010 said:

THe picture in the OP is wrong. And can we please stop saying overtracked/undertracked every week. Its what makes these threads annoying in my honest opinion. ioi did adjust PS4 up to 9.9m right after that announcement if im correct. If its still off by a 100k or something then ok. You can say the same for XBO/WiiU. THese are not 100% numbers but they will be relatively close to them.  It at least gives you a good idea of what is going on.

EDIT: OP Fixed the picture. GJ


Xbox One and Wii U have never been 900k (or 10%) undertracked worldwide.  Saying you could say the same about X1 or Wii U is untrue because Wii U doesn't sell enough to be that wrong and X1 has NPD for a large part of their sales as well as regular percentage info from the UK, which is most of its market.



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Wazowski on 30 September 2014

i dont think vgchatz is undertracking ps4 by 400k, more like 100k to 200k max, may be, which isnt that bad..



Xenostar on 30 September 2014
JayWood2010 said:

THe picture in the OP is wrong. And can we please stop saying overtracked/undertracked every week. Its what makes these threads annoying in my honest opinion. ioi did adjust PS4 up to 9.9m right after that announcement if im correct. If its still off by a 100k or something then ok. You can say the same for XBO/WiiU. THese are not 100% numbers but they will be relatively close to them.  It at least gives you a good idea of what is going on.

EDIT: OP Fixed the picture. GJ


No he adjusted it up to 9.75M, the following weeks numbers took it to 9.9M, so its still 250k missing units. 



DonFerrari on 30 September 2014

Good... let's keep overtracking X1 and undertracking PS4 and then when it's time to adjust we cry about not believing and having nowhere to put the sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CosmicSex on 30 September 2014
prinz_valium said:

yeath. thats the 10m announcement, when vgc was at 9.1

but now were at 11 and u talk about being near to 12

so again 1 million off in just 2 month for continental europe and the rest of world sales?

dont think so

 

Between the 7 million announcement and the GamesCom announcement,  only 3 months had passed.  Why should we be more confident in the numbers today than 3 months ago.  Are you suggesting that VGChartz methodology has improved?



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Jaywood2010 on 30 September 2014
celador said:
JayWood2010 said:

 


Xbox One and Wii U have never been 900k (or 10%) undertracked worldwide.  Saying you could say the same about X1 or Wii U is untrue because Wii U doesn't sell enough to be that wrong and X1 has NPD for a large part of their sales as well as regular percentage info from the UK, which is most of its market.

Im talking about 100-300k.  We already know WiiU has been overtracked but we dont comment every single week on that.  We made a thread so ioi could see it and moved on. Who knows about XBO on whether it is 100% accurate.  As far as we know PS4 is a few 100k off.  Thats nice and all but we dont need 50+ comments every single week talking about the exact same thing.  If you guys think you all can do a better job tracking these consoles then go do it instead of ridiculing the site owner and how he he only adjusted it to 9.9m instead of 10m.





       

Aerys on 30 September 2014
Wazowski said:
i dont think vgchatz is undertracking ps4 by 400k, more like 100k to 200k max, may be, which isnt that bad..


Nop, it's officially undertracked by 250k at least, and if they undertracked it by 700k once, it could very well be near from 400k at the end of the month.

More the PS4 sells, more VGC undertracks it, so with big games like Fifa and Destiny, you can bet it will be by a lot, especially when you see such wrong numbers for this week



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Drakrami on 30 September 2014

Since we were at over 10million sold way back in 13August at Gamescom. Factor in the Destiny launch. I'd say we're underrtracked by 200-300k.



DonFerrari on 30 September 2014
JayWood2010 said:

THe picture in the OP is wrong. And can we please stop saying overtracked/undertracked every week. Its what makes these threads annoying in my honest opinion. ioi did adjust PS4 up to 9.9m right after that announcement if im correct. If its still off by a 100k or something then ok. You can say the same for XBO/WiiU. THese are not 100% numbers but they will be relatively close to them.  It at least gives you a good idea of what is going on.

EDIT: OP Fixed the picture. GJ


nope... almost a month after the announcement, when ioi corrected the numbers it was still 250k undertracked... he put 9.9M but it already included an extra week so it should have been 10.1-10.2



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CosmicSex on 30 September 2014
toastboy44562 said:
All went up! Go xbox one go!


Well it can't go down :)