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Forums - Politics Discussion - Viggo Mortesen calls Israël " state terrorism"

 

ChudStudly said:

COX said:

Well I think that outside of USA many people agree with him. In my country (in Europe) almost of all the people I know disapprove the actions of Israël.


That's why I'm proud to be an American.

Im a european aswell and personally i think israel is perfectly in the right to defend themselves when all of their neighbors gang up on them. Even Egypt which osnt even located in the middle east has made an offensive towards them.  When israel beats the odds the aggressors come crying out to the world talking about atrocities..  They freaking started the war. 

 

Nonetheless why would that make you proud to be an american?  Why do american exceptionalism thoughts have to enter this aswell? Seems like this has nothing to do with you  as a nation so please go back to your handegg



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On the war "X country lost 1% the lives of Y country"... that is basically the result of losing a war agaisnt someone that is much stronger than you, perhaps you shouldn't had entered the war against them in the first place?



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ChudStudly said:
COX said:

Well I think that outside of USA many people agree with him. In my country (in Europe) almost of all the people I know disapprove the actions of Israël.


That's why I'm proud to be an American.

I am sure that there are better reasons to be proud to be an American. I don't like the fact that some countries are pro-Israel or pro-palestine. There's no a bad guy or a good guy in this "war". 



Scisca said:
It's sad that saying the truth will probably kill his carrier now, but that's what USA is like, probably the rest of the West isn't much better.

Israel is a terrorist state, there is no doubt about it. They have been bombing and murdering innocent civilians for decades now. They have total censorship, so there is no freedom of speech there, the society is being invigilated by the secret service to an extent unimaginable for us. Oh, and they have developed and used forbidden weapons of mass destruction.

They are a terrorist state - no doubt about it, but they are our terrorists and they are still allowed to play the WWII victim card, so they can do whatever the hell they want.


The US developed the worst weapon of all time. And has been the only nation to use it....  Twice.... On civilian targets...  While downplaying its effects through censored press..  If they are terrorists..  Then what are you? God fearing, ally spying,  oil stealing,  war mongering saviours of the world? Nonetheless you are still allowed to play the 9/11 card so you can do whatever the hell you want



Agreed.

Absolutely disgusting what they get away with.



                            

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badgenome said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:
Why do you people call Israel terrorists? Imagine if Native Americans were attacked and mostly destroyed. They regroup hundreds of years later, but you americans attack and bomb them because "you were here first". That's how Israel feels. But of you don't agree with me, that's fine.

Well, terrorism is a tactic and not about whether you are "right" or "wrong". What makes this an especially a messy situation is that both sides have claims to being the Native Americans in your scenario.

Hold on a minute.  God told them to slaughter the original inhabitants.  Totally not their fault.

I'm sure Israel would give up most of their land willingly if the Canaanites came back--I mean, if they'd left any alive, that is.



pokoko said:

Hold on a minute.  God told them to slaughter the original inhabitants.  Totally not their fault.

I'm sure Israel would give up most of their land willingly if the Canaanites came back--I mean, if they'd left any alive, that is.

God told both sides to slaughter the other side. And even more strange, in both cases it's the same god, as both are abrahamic religions.



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pokoko said:

Hold on a minute.  God told them to slaughter the original inhabitants.  Totally not their fault.

I'm sure Israel would give up most of their land willingly if the Canaanites came back--I mean, if they'd left any alive, that is.

Well, if you kill some people but leave a bunch left then they'll always be around to make you feel guilty and remind you that you're some kind of intruder there. But if you kill everyone, then a natives is you!



The jewes had stolen more and more land since they got a "land" after ww2..

They kill and terroris a hole people.. just becourse some (that also terroris them.. hamas) shoot old bombs with low blast power into theire land.. (and that's illigal and "state terror")

It would be the same if england just bombed ireland becourse of ira.. (and stole all the best part of the land)

Proud (and very lucky) to be danish..