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Dark_Feanor on 29 September 2014
Lafiel said:
ethomaz said:

There is a third option don't use ESRAM.

Not giving the credits to Sony but if what they showed are true they tested many EDRAM configs for PS4 (even 1GB/s) and the results are not good enought... so why MS didn't faced it in project time? What they are expecting?

well, the common theory is that MS always planned to have a pretty big OS in the X1 and therefore absolutely needed 8GB ram, which is why they decided on DDR3 ram pretty early on and included ESRAM to make it work, as GDDR5 modules were only 256MB each and putting 32 of that into a console would need a hell of complicated/expensive mainboard design

there was no guarantee 512MB modules would become available in time - Sony on the other hand decided on GDDR5 ram and 4GB (small footprint OS), but the 512MB modules came just in time to replace the original 256MB ones in the plan making the PS4 have 8GB GDDR5 ram


But the OS footprint also increased.

We don´t know exactly what happened when they were developing the hardware.

Most we know is:

1- Developers wanted 8GB of RAM and a many threads CPU.

2- MS and Sony didn´t wanted overpriced hardware.

3- Microsoft was very happy with the Kinect success (20mi in less than 2 years).

4- Sony wanted a very PC like configuration.

5- Microsoft went for the stablished DX 11.

6- Sony and Microsoft wanted mult task  mult entertaiment hub.

7- Sony still want to push BluRay.

8- Microsoft was more interested in services and subscriptions.

... but the last two are for another discusion.



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KdxlavkdX on 29 September 2014

Wow. Glad I have both the X1 and PS4.



CosmicSex on 29 September 2014
Lafiel said:
MoHasanie said:
Yikes. Will there be 720p games on X1 throughout the gen?!

even on PS4 devs might have to drop the res in the future to get better graphical results, so yes, I do expect more 720p games down the line for X1

I have to agree with this but their are some caveats.  First we have to expect that engines will be improved and optimised.



WebMasterFlex on 29 September 2014
FightingSmile said:
Lol goes to show that we should expect a new generation of consoles relatively soon


For MS yes, not for Sony. Do not act like if xbone weaker hardware is a global problem.



elazz on 29 September 2014
Nem said:
Quite honestly, resolution gate doesnt matter that much. 720 to 1080 is only noticeable if you have the TV for it. But 60 to 30 fps is clearly noticeable by everyone. That is the real drama.

Not this again, don't pretend as if there is no change. Just take any PC game you have, play it on 720p and afterwards change it to 1080p. The difference is massive, even from far away. Even 900 - 1080p is a massive change from reasonable distance. 

Well, only one system left for the Lord of the Rings fans who want the games as well. The game looks really good on PS4 but didn't thought it would be that bad on Xone. At least I cannot wait for tomorrow!! Finally a good game in Middle-Earth in 1080p/~60



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rccsetzer on 29 September 2014
WebMasterFlex said:
FightingSmile said:
Lol goes to show that we should expect a new generation of consoles relatively soon


For MS yes, not for Sony. Do not act like if xbone weaker hardware is a global problem.


Too risky for MS to scrap Xbox One so soon. Look at what happened to Sega Saturn and Dreamcast. They will have to deal losing this generation for Sony until the next is ready to start (developers will say when).



joshluck95 on 29 September 2014
beeje13 said:
The more you stress hardware, the greater the differences are shown.

I remember somebody saying that the gap will widen, not sure who though.

Devs can put more time and effort optimising the X1 version to bridge the gap. Some don't do it like that though.


alot of people have said about the gap growing wider, andrew house from playstation himself said it and he isnt wrong, 



krippaz on 29 September 2014

Well no suprise for me :). HW is what it is ....



KingdomHeartsFan on 29 September 2014

Doesn't that mean the X1 is closer to the last gen versions than the PS4 version?  Kinda hard to believe.



Trunkin on 29 September 2014
elazz said:
Nem said:
Quite honestly, resolution gate doesnt matter that much. 720 to 1080 is only noticeable if you have the TV for it. But 60 to 30 fps is clearly noticeable by everyone. That is the real drama.

Not this again, don't pretend as if there is no change. Just take any PC game you have, play it on 720p and afterwards change it to 1080p. The difference is massive, even from far away. Even 900 - 1080p is a massive change from reasonable distance. 

Well, only one system left for the Lord of the Rings fans who want the games as well. The game looks really good on PS4 but didn't thought it would be that bad on Xone. At least I cannot wait for tomorrow!! Finally a good game in Middle-Earth in 1080p/~60

There really isn't a big difference between 720p and 1080p on a TV, imo. However, on a PC monitor, even 900p to 1080p is significant. But yeah, the 30fps thing is what I can't wrap my head around. If it were 720p and a (near) locked 60fps, there'd be no issue.