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Clyde32 on 29 September 2014
Smear-Gel said:
OoT Link? Nope.

Link to the Past Link saved the world FOUR TIMES. All as a young teen. That's 3 times more than most Links.

Minish Cap Link scaled one of the tallest mountains in Hyrule history, defeated a fire dragon, learned an extensive swordfighting techique by a bunch of swordmasters and then went to S̶k̶y̶l̶o̶f̶t̶ The Cloud Tops, despite being practically the youngest Link.

I think both are stronger than OoT/MM Link.

I guess comparing them purely by items and skills rather than feats will leave a different conclusion though.

Well...to be fair, he really only saved the world twice. The Oracle games count as one because the only threat of the world being destroyed was after both games were put together. And Link's Awakening was just him getting off the island. 



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Mr Khan on 29 September 2014
Super_Boom said:

Well...the Hero of Winds had to create his own Triforce, reforge the Master Sword, and stabbed Ganondorf in the head. He also defeated Bellum in Phantom Hourglass, found a New Hyrule and had babies with Tsundere Zelda, so I'd argue he was at least on par with the Hero of Time, despite the fact that he'll be the underdog in this thread.

Special mention to LoZ I and II Hero though, just cuz his games were so hard.

Nobody else had to fight the goddamn thunderbird, that's for sure.



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Vena on 29 September 2014
the_dengle said:
Fierce Deity mask is pretty good. Don't think it beats the Triforce though, which is used by LTTP and SS Link.


Isn't Fierce Deity the mask of a god? Seems its on par with the Triforce in terms of godliness.

More importantly, how/why does OoT/Majora's Link turn into a Stalthos? He can't be dead at the point in time in Termina of Majora's Mask because, then, how does he ever grow into adult form to save the day if he's dead before getting to be an adult? Unstable timeloop!



mysteryman on 29 September 2014
Clyde32 said:
mysteryman said:

He was also defeated though.

So in a sense, the Hero of Time is the weakest Link.


The question is why though? What was the determining factor that led link to be defeated? There are actually theories that suggest that he failed because of the lack of neccessary means to defeat Ganondorf. 

Why does it matter? The Hero of Time failed and the possibility of any other Link doing so hasn't even been considered.



Roar_Of_War on 29 September 2014

ALttP and SS Link's got the full triforce.



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Experimental42 on 29 September 2014
mysteryman said:
Clyde32 said:
mysteryman said:

He was also defeated though.

So in a sense, the Hero of Time is the weakest Link.


The question is why though? What was the determining factor that led link to be defeated? There are actually theories that suggest that he failed because of the lack of neccessary means to defeat Ganondorf. 

Why does it matter? The Hero of Time failed and the possibility of any other Link doing so hasn't even been considered.

You shouldn't base the strength of a character on him failing because a situation is literally improssible. The other links didn't fail because their their situations. The original Link would have failed if there were no silver arrow, and that has nothing to do with his personal prowess.



Clyde32 on 29 September 2014
Experimental42 said:

You shouldn't base the strength of a character on him failing because a situation is literally improssible. The other links didn't fail because their their situations. The original Link would have failed if there were no silver arrow, and that has nothing to do with his personal prowess.


And I'm sure many people did fail because they didn't get the silver arrow.



mysteryman on 30 September 2014
Experimental42 said:
mysteryman said:
Clyde32 said:


The question is why though? What was the determining factor that led link to be defeated? There are actually theories that suggest that he failed because of the lack of neccessary means to defeat Ganondorf. 

Why does it matter? The Hero of Time failed and the possibility of any other Link doing so hasn't even been considered.

You shouldn't base the strength of a character on him failing because a situation is literally improssible. The other links didn't fail because their their situations. The original Link would have failed if there were no silver arrow, and that has nothing to do with his personal prowess.

So what are you basing their individual stengths on then?

Are you comparing purely their raw strength, or incorporating their collected items/magics/powerups?

One could also argue that attaining the required items/magics/powerups to defeat evil is directly tied to Link's strength (or courage), so not having what is required would still be Link's fault, and weakness.

This also assumes that failing to defeat Ganondorf in OoT was indeed a result of missing the required means to do so, whereas it could also simply be the lack of skill/strength/courage to do so.



Experimental42 on 30 September 2014
mysteryman said:

So what are you basing their individual stengths on then?

Are you comparing purely their raw strength, or incorporating their collected items/magics/powerups?

One could also argue that attaining the required items/magics/powerups to defeat evil is directly tied to Link's strength (or courage), so not having what is required would still be Link's fault, and weakness.

This also assumes that failing to defeat Ganondorf in OoT was indeed a result of missing the required means to do so, whereas it could also simply be the lack of skill/strength/courage to do so.

That's great and all, but think of it like this. Pretend you were the greatest Zelda player ever, but you got a copy of the game with no silver arrow. Does the fact that the silver arrow does not exist in this version of events affect your caliber as a player?



mysteryman on 30 September 2014
Experimental42 said:
mysteryman said:
 

So what are you basing their individual stengths on then?

Are you comparing purely their raw strength, or incorporating their collected items/magics/powerups?

One could also argue that attaining the required items/magics/powerups to defeat evil is directly tied to Link's strength (or courage), so not having what is required would still be Link's fault, and weakness.

This also assumes that failing to defeat Ganondorf in OoT was indeed a result of missing the required means to do so, whereas it could also simply be the lack of skill/strength/courage to do so.

That's great and all, but think of it like this. Pretend you were the greatest Zelda player ever, but you got a copy of the game with no silver arrow. Does the fact that the silver arrow does not exist in this version of events affect your caliber as a player?

But what about all the other items/magics/powerups? By your logic, you should be comparing each Link's base strength/skill/courage.