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Ka-pi96 said:
bubblegamer said:
Woot woot congratz PS4. The best console ever made!

ummm.... PS2 says hi...

PS4 says hello.

Those two are so cute



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Ka-pi96 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:


That is your opinion, and we'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

In any case, I see no real reason to celebrate this. The PC ultimately wins this category, and you would agree with this. I'm sure you don't agree that we'd celebrate this fact with the PC, right?

Fair enough

Yep PC wins there, can't argue against that. I wouldn't celebrate it because I'm not a fan of PC gaming, I've even done some port begging for PC exclusives
But if PC fans were to celebrate that then I could understand them doing it.


Why don't you like PC gaming?



Vena said:
Dunban67 said:
The Wii U software sales are nearly as disastrous as their hardware sales - If you watch them week to week or look at totals they are very low- the fact the PS4 has passed them in less than 1 year and w only 1 holiday while the Wii U has had nearly 2 years and 2 holidays does not speak well - The 2nd holiday advantage the Wii u has is as big a deal as the time difference- The Xbox will prob pass them soon as well if trends continue


There's only like 15-20 "fresh" (as in launched concurrently on multi or WiiU exclusive) games on the WiiU at this point, everything else is ports (late, even if some of them are really well done like Deus) or movie titles. Its actually amazing it has as many softwares sales as it does given the population size. If you compare across the consoles, it really shows how small the WiiU's physical library (its indie/digital/wii library is massive but also not tracked or really relevant) is because of the lack of third parties because, at this point, the PS4/X1 have matched, if not exceeded, its library with total fresh-launch titles.

The Wii U actually does not have god software sales- they are terrible - even Nintendo has acknowledged as much -  

if you are saying the reason ( or one of the big reasons) software sales are low is the lack of good content, I don t think you will get much argument from most-   Re the eshop and  Indie s -  it is not massive-  it does have more indies compared to past Nintendo consoles but not in comparison to the competition -  as far as vc games the Wii u has been very slow getting th out in comparison to the Wii



Dunban67 said:

The Wii U actually does not have god software sales- they are terrible - even Nintendo has acknowledged as much -  


Their mainline titles sell fine, problem is they have too few and there's nothing else that "sells" because there's just nothing much else there. Like I said, there are 15-20 real titles on the console, a number already passed by PS4/X1 because of third party support. To that end, the numbers the WiiU has managed to achieved, almost entirely based on its first party library and Nintendo, are actually highly impressive in a vacuum. They simply aren't impressive all things considered because Nintendo alone can't keep the console title-rich.

In the Gamecube era, when software uptake was crazy high and keeping the console profitable, they still had big titles like Soul Calibur and Resident Evil and otherwise filling in blanks and seeing high uptake along with Nintendo's own titles. But look at the WiiU, how many titles that aren't Nintendo aren't either: ports of old games or movie tie-ins?... Almost none.



QuintonMcLeod said:
Ka-pi96 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

But these are multiplats. Having the most multiplats sold over another console that is not getting multiplats is a very warped way to view this. How about we compare total exclusive software sold? I mean, wouldn't that make more sense?

It is fair. If Nintendo wanted more software sales they would make sure multiplat games actually release on their console. They choose to compete without them, and this is the result... they lose.


And how do you propose Nintendo do that? Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been. I mean... They are a business, are they not?

So, what should Nintendo do?

Sony and MS arent paying for multiplats to be on their systems. They dont have to, Developers and publishers are releaseing games on their systems because they actually sell there



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The sales also passed the physical vita game sales last week. I wonder how long until it can catch up with the 3ds. Probably not for at least a year and a half



padib said:
Goes to show that Nintendo sell more games, while Sony sell more consoles. Sony was able to beat Nintendo's HW sales a long time ago, but it took them a while before they matched the total SW sales.

Good job Nintendo.


It's naturally going to take longer for a system to catch up and pass another in terms of software rather than hardware, the gap isn't going to close linearly.  You only buy one console (typically) but you go on to buy several pieces of software for it.  The fact that it took a little less than a year for the ps4 to pass the wii u in software sales is impressive for sony and damming for nintendo.



padib said:
cheshirescat said:
padib said:
Goes to show that Nintendo sell more games, while Sony sell more consoles. Sony was able to beat Nintendo's HW sales a long time ago, but it took them a while before they matched the total SW sales.

Good job Nintendo.

It's naturally going to take longer for a system to catch up and pass another in terms of software rather than hardware, the gap isn't going to close linearly.  You only buy one console (typically) but you go on to buy several pieces of software for it.  The fact that it took a little less than a year for the ps4 to pass the wii u in software sales is impressive for sony and damming for nintendo.

I'm not sure how that logic works. So people only buy duplicates on Nintendo systems?

Sounds like a case of confirmation bias.

People don't buy all the games at once, they buy games over time, and people who own WiiU's have owned it for far more time and have had longer to buy more games. The PS4 has only been around for less than a year, there are only so many games people will buy during that time.



QuintonMcLeod said:

Do you have any serious solutions that doesn't involve Nintendo paying somebody off? If you were someone to help Nintendo, how would you help them gain 3rd party support and put money in their pockets?


Stop writing in bold.

The only way for Nintendo to turn the Wii U disaster around is to release a new console in November 2015 without the "Wii" name. Just in time for all the big 1st party games planned for next year to be finished. Prepare two versions of them, one for Wii U (so that people don't complain they don't get what was promised) and a HD version for the new console. Port older Wii U games as well - MK8, 2D, 3D Mario, DK: TF, Pikmin, Zelda: WW - that coupled with what N has in store for next year (Zelda, etc.) would make for a mindblowing launch period.

The console obviously has to be more powerful than the PS4, but that shouldn't be hard being 2 years younger. It would get the ultimate versions of multiplats now and people (consumers and developers) would react to this. Imagine Christmas 2015 with all these 1st party games and all 3rd party exclusives finally at 1080p@60fps and with highest details. The controler? A Classic Pro Controler bundled with the console, Gamepad and Wiimote compatibility, these two sold as accessory (the units sold thus far obvoiusly work with the console).

They would also have to finally update the e-shop. Create an account system, put all NES, SNES, N64, GCN and Wii games on it.

This is the only way for Nintendo to bounce back in home console business. Wii U will reach its peak year in 2015 and will most probably die shortly after either way. Better to kill it before it kills you. There is no way to turn this console into a success. The faster N reacts, the better for them.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

Do you have any serious solutions that doesn't involve Nintendo paying somebody off? If you were someone to help Nintendo, how would you help them gain 3rd party support and put money in their pockets?


Stop writing in bold.

The only way for Nintendo to turn the Wii U disaster around is to release a new console in November 2015 without the "Wii" name. Just in time for all the big 1st party games planned for next year to be finished. Prepare two versions of them, one for Wii U (so that people don't complain they don't get what was promised) and a HD version for the new console. Port older Wii U games as well - MK8, 2D, 3D Mario, DK: TF, Pikmin, Zelda: WW - that coupled with what N has in store for next year (Zelda, etc.) would make for a mindblowing launch period.

The console obviously has to be more powerful than the PS4, but that shouldn't be hard being 2 years younger. It would get the ultimate versions of multiplats now and people (consumers and developers) would react to this. Imagine Christmas 2015 with all these 1st party games and all 3rd party exclusives finally at 1080p@60fps and with highest details. The controler? A Classic Pro Controler bundled with the console, Gamepad and Wiimote compatibility, these two sold as accessory (the units sold thus far obvoiusly work with the console).

They would also have to finally update the e-shop. Create an account system, put all NES, SNES, N64, GCN and Wii games on it.

This is the only way for Nintendo to bounce back in home console business. Wii U will reach its peak year in 2015 and will most probably die shortly after either way. Better to kill it before it kills you. There is no way to turn this console into a success. The faster N reacts, the better for them.


I will never trust your opinions on this matter. You're better off not adding any input