That's not the biggest problem either. What does X1 offer from January to Holidays 2015 that the PS4 doesn't have? Consumers aren't going to just sit tight and wait 9-10 months for Halo 5 and Tomb Raider. Sure, there will be 3rd party titles to help the X1 out, but the PS4 is the to-go platform for multiplats. They'll move PS4 hardware better than they'll move X1 hardware. Meanwhile, Bloodborne and The Order: 1886 will be coming out in February. Uncharted 4 will most likely be released next fall. Games like Wild, No Man's Sky, The Tomorrow Children, etc. will come out next year, too. Consumers buy consoles for multiple games, not just a select few.

Halo 5 is a big deal, I don't think we have any evidence to suggest otherwise.

Tomb Raider is a big selling Ip, obviously not halo levels or even uncharted but still big.

Destiny was also on the PS4 yet Xbox One numbers rose significantly at its launch. Just to reaffirm, the discussion isn't ''will Xbox sell more then PS4'', I'm talking about whether the system will achieve healthy sales or not and my believe that it can achieve mostly from US support. Its common people bring up the PS4s brilliant sales, but just because the DS massively outsold the PSP, doesn't mean the PSP done poorly.

shouldn't this be in the microsoft section and not gaming section just to try and keep up appearances with these odd pleading threads

PS4 is doing blindingly well too despite all the Boxtrolls desperate for a sony failure, infact it is crunching up the box worldwide and beating it out in the last 2 safezones

people like jega are prominent vgc user alts i wonder who it is,a big ninbot or a major boxtroll

No where in any of my threads do I say I want the Playstation 4 to fail. All too often people take my positive outlook on the Xbox One

to mean that it will be negative for the Playstation 4.

In fact I hope both the Playstation 4 sell near or over 100 million units. Just like how the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are 80 + million units.

I never stopped to realize that with the slight difference in resolution and sometimes frame-rate reviewers always give

both the Xbox One version and Playstation 4 version of multi-platform games the same score.

Wow never noticed that. That says alot.

Take notice people Microsoft may not know what gamers want, but they do know about hardware and software.

BraLoD said: Both toast and jega threads today, I was already expecting it Also, Forza Horizon 2 is coming to 360 too, not true-next gen at all.

Just because it is coming to Xbox 360 as well doesn't make it not next-gen.

OMG lol.. You sound like a sad fanboy. Yes I admit I like Microsoft brand but I certainly don't have ill wishes for the competition and am hopeful the likes of Sony would do well considering its financial situation....But to go on like this labelling other fans this way..... You really are sick and twisted man! Lol..

The fact that the 360 had 50% share while the X1 still is trying to reach a good 30% even after reaching the same price point as the PS4 shows that gamers do care. Nobody said it is selling horribly, just that it is selling way less than the PS4 and that's a fact.

Let's just agree on two fact that you are trying to twist with your OP:

- PS4 is outselling the X1 2:1. It can change, but right now it's how things are.

- It doesn't matter if X1 games reach 1080p, there is a power difference that will always be there and you just have to read the specs too see it.

Stop creating these same threads over and over trying to prove a point that doesn't exists.

Jega said: BraLoD said: Both toast and jega threads today, I was already expecting it Also, Forza Horizon 2 is coming to 360 too, not true-next gen at all. Just because it is coming to Xbox 360 as well doesn't make it not next-gen.

Yes it does. Because it won't use an engine made with next-gen only resources like material based rendering and global illumination.