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Serious question: Does XB1 have any major exclusives in the 1st half of 2015?

It seems to me XB1 has some announced games with dates still TBA that could come in Q1/Q2, but for now it seems they don't have an answer to The Order & Bloodborne. There are a lot of multiplats coming but they will bost PS4 more, so at this rate XB1 could have a very sad 1st half of 2015.



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Eh I've got a decent PC so don't need an xbone.The vast majority of xbox exclusives over the years arrive on PC too - fable, halo series and others.You can't say the same thing about Nintendo consoles and to a lesser extent playstation.



Here we go again, how many npd months/chart track/other chart data is it going to get until we stop seeing these massive x1 turnaround posts. X1 is alive in 4 areas, north america, UK, and Aus/Nz. And its still second place there. Then we get these people who have absolutely no idea why, so come to the conclusion that xbox will explode from nowhere.



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IamAwsome said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
IamAwsome said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Because power back then made little difference. Even if you doubled the power of rivals, you wouldn't see much of a difference. Now though, you do and people have noticed it. Plus power now allows for a more varied game library which devs are opting for. Combine this with price and market image, and it is misguided to assume that the PS4 won't utterly dominate this generation.

The Wii wasn't that long ago. Another thing, how does the PS4's power allow for a more vaired game library? Aside from the resolution issue (which is overblown), there isn't a lot that PS4 can do that the Xb1 can't.

The PS4 has roughly 50% more power - that is a lot. This allows for more effects and mechanics eg destructible environments, use of particle physics, more objects on screen etc. People who think power only improves resolution need to either study or use a game engine to see how games actually work

I know about all of that stuff. The PS4 is more powerful, but it's not like the PS360 vs Wii. The XB1 will still get all of the big AAA games and whatnot. You talk about the power difference, but how many 3rd party devs will actually use this? Destiny looks better on PS4, but it's not something to run out and buy a PS4 over (not like Uncharted anyway), and I still don't understand what you mean by "varied game library". Most 3rd party devs put games on both consoles for financial reasons. 

It will get AAA for the moment. If the gap becomes big enough and Sony work their PR magic with firms, you may find devs opting just for the PS4 for a few reasons (as already seen with many new IPs and studios).

Publishers go for both platforms due to market size, but as soon as on market is dominant and large enough, it might be more financially sound to just stick with one platform and give extra time into making a higher quality product rather than 2 average products.

And that leads to my second point - content. More can be done with the PS4 and if devs get to the point where they realise that to make a new game with new content (opposed to reboxing the same game and calling it a sequel), you need the power of the PS4. Epic games are very much in this category as they made UE4 on the notion that people were going to stop buying games as they were all the same and nothing new was being offered, ergo to sell a game, you need new features.

However, this is all detracting from the original point – xbone catching up to the ps4. As it currently stands, ergo forgetting my “possible” hypothesis, I can’t see any reason the xbone would match ps4 sales. Both are the same price yet the PS4 runs games better. Simply put, people I know who own a xbone have been disappointed. Those who own a PS4 have been very happy.

 



Garland said:
teigaga said:
Garland said:

When the system is dominating like Xbox 360 was, yes. But it's not. 

Microsoft is already heading down back towards the Original Xbox where it's sales were very small. More people are picking up PS4's, & the gap between the sales of Xbox One & PS4 are getting bigger & bigger.


They really aren't. By the end of the year Xbox will be approaching 8-10m. Its really not comparable to the original Xbox and in 2015 it should be up YOY outside of January.

Microsoft can easily manage a worldwide baseline of 80-100k next year and the majority of that will come from north america. PS4 sales are irrelevant to Xbox's individual profitability, so it doesn't matter if the gap is increasing.

Sure, you keep thinking that, buddy.

Unless you're one of those people who think that next gen only 3rd party titles will have little to no effect on Xbox's future, I don't see how you're in dissagreement with me. Its a very safe prediction that XBox will be up next year because of WItch 3, Evolve and Battlefield 4, Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Devision, Star Wars etc. Not to mention the momentum its bound to have after holiday boosts like Halo MC collection, COD 1TB bundle, all the 3rd party titles like Dragon Age and the lessor exclusives like Spark and Sunset Overdrive. 

I could be proven wrong but I'd be surprised if it didn't manage at least 8m by years end, 400k in October and then another 2m between November and December. And of course doing most of the work would be North America which still carries the Xbox brand which is the only reason the System hasn't sold like complete trash(refer back to my original statement). 5.4m before its very 1st post launch holiday is not trash and more then what the 360 managed.



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Very well is maybe excessive WW, but yes, we can say that XBOne is doing very well in America, and thanks to it, despite doing barely decently in EU outside of UK, and the usual small niche in Japan, it manages to do from decently to well WW.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
Very well is maybe excessive WW, but yes, we can say that XBOne is doing very well in America, and thanks to it, despite doing barely decently in EU outside of UK, and the usual small niche in Japan, it manages to do from decently to well WW.


Tell me how 2.3 million for the year is "well" world wide in your eyes ? wiiu is at 1.8 while the PS4 is near 7m.  



Do some Americans just buy Xbox because Microsoft is an American company? I know that mentality is huge in Japan.



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Maciveli said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Very well is maybe excessive WW, but yes, we can say that XBOne is doing very well in America, and thanks to it, despite doing barely decently in EU outside of UK, and the usual small niche in Japan, it manages to do from decently to well WW.


Tell me how 2.3 million for the year is "well" world wide in your eyes ? wiiu is at 1.8 while the PS4 is near 7m.  


You're asking me about something I didn't write: "from decently to well" is quite different from a simple "well". "From decently to well" for me is anything not bad and at the same time sustainable. If after Summer slump XBOne hadn't increased at least a little, the outlook, beyond the raw numbers, would be terribly worse, but as XBOne is showing very good boosts in America and at least decent ones elsewhere when big titles launch, sales, if evaluated together with outlook too, can be considered from decent to good. Nothing more, nothing less, and a bad BF+Xmas could make my evaluation drop again, the market is dynamic, not static. During Summer before adjustments, both sales and outlook were horrible, for example.



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