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Because I think they worry that cheaply priced games (like the VC) would hurt sales of new games as people would load up on cheap games and not buy anything else.

Not saying I agree with that, but I think Nintendo's position is that moving away from the standard formula of the $39.99-$59.99 video game is very bad, Iwata said so as much at GDC a few years ago when he railed about smartphone games devaluing the business.

That's why they slow release VC games IMO, there's no reason the Wii U shouldn't have all the VC games the Wii had by now.



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because is Nintendo. A company we love but is stupid. Simple



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Because nintendo's motto is: " too little too late". The eshop is an insult of an online shop. You still can't play 99% of gba and ds games digital, it's absurd.



The virtual console has been one of Nintendo's biggest missed opportunities. A subscription service that gets you access to a wide breadth of games across past Nintendo consoles sounds like a huge money maker.

But Nintendo gonna Nintendo I guess.



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One reason probably is, if you've noticed, Wii U VC titles are not merely straight ports. They add several features, such as higher resolution/scan/whatever, better state saving ability, the ability to set your controls/buttons for each game, etc.

That alone makes it a bit extra work, I'd imagine. I agree they need to put TG16 and Sega systems on there, at least. However, when asked about it, Sega didn't, for whatever stupid reason, seem to be in any hurry to do so, as they "currently had no plans" to put Genesis or Master System games on Wii U. And in that sense, it's all up to Sega. In fact, it's all up to every third party company, outside of Nintendo's hands. The only games Nintendo really controls on whether or not we get them for Wii U, is their own.

And I am still waiting for some GBA games I want, Harmony of Dissonance, Mario Kart, Zero Mission, Mario Advance 1. But I trust/hope we'll eventually get those, even though CV is totally up to Konami, and they do suck these days......



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Soundwave said:
Because I think they worry that cheaply priced games (like the VC) would hurt sales of new games as people would load up on cheap games and not buy anything else.

Not saying I agree with that, but I think Nintendo's position is that moving away from the standard formula of the $39.99-$59.99 video game is very bad, Iwata said so as much at GDC a few years ago when he railed about smartphone games devaluing the business.

That's why they slow release VC games IMO, there's no reason the Wii U shouldn't have all the VC games the Wii had by now.

I never thought of VC titles as "cheap games". After all, the eshop mas been getting a lot of crappy 2-3$ indie games lately, those are cheap games IMO. VC titles have a fair price, and people who buy them I imagine know what they're getting and why. Probably the people who buy the most retail games as well.



DevilRising said:
One reason probably is, if you've noticed, Wii U VC titles are not merely straight ports. They add several features, such as higher resolution/scan/whatever, better state saving ability, the ability to set your controls/buttons for each game, etc.

That alone makes it a bit extra work, I'd imagine. I agree they need to put TG16 and Sega systems on there, at least. However, when asked about it, Sega didn't, for whatever stupid reason, seem to be in any hurry to do so, as they "currently had no plans" to put Genesis or Master System games on Wii U. And in that sense, it's all up to Sega. In fact, it's all up to every third party company, outside of Nintendo's hands. The only games Nintendo really controls on whether or not we get them for Wii U, is their own.

And I am still waiting for some GBA games I want, Harmony of Dissonance, Mario Kart, Zero Mission, Mario Advance 1. But I trust/hope we'll eventually get those, even though CV is totally up to Konami, and they do suck these days......

You know, it is more work indeed. I guess I should appreciate what they're doing more. It's a really silly situation, where everything has to be redone from the ground up, even if it does result in better, well, results.

Thanks for explaining the third party situation as well. Yeah, GBA Castlevanias would be a boon.



Fusioncode said:
The virtual console has been one of Nintendo's biggest missed opportunities. A subscription service that gets you access to a wide breadth of games across past Nintendo consoles sounds like a huge money maker.

But Nintendo gonna Nintendo I guess.

Subscription and service are the words Nintendo doesn't recognize I'm afraid. But doesn't matter. I enjoy owning the games versus paying the subscription and eventually being left with nothing.



  X  = Nintendo's future streaming service??

I think they're looking at better ways to distribute and monetize their library while maintaining control.


Nintendo is inept.

Wii U VC should have Master System, NES, TG-16, Genesis, SNES, Saturn, N64, Dreamcast, GameCube, and Wii games.
3DS VC should have GB, Game Gear, GBC, GBA, and DS games.





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