Too much stuff is hitting PC for it to be reliably relevant to console gaming sales at this point, and the two exclusives are nothing spectacular, even the GTAV (possible?) bundle may not get them far as the PC offering, while not immediate, has a lot more to offer than any console release. Destiny is the biggest draw they have available and that's, at current, an uncertainty. They'll get the usual holiday bump but will it be enough to break 500k/week?

Nearly ALL multiplats hit PCs but they do boost console sales a lot. Also, its too soon to say that the two exclusives aren't spectacular, as they haven't even released. They are, in fact, VERY important as they can bring in the racing and platformer crowd to the PS4.

I just think that in this gen, especially, its going to be less and less relevant, those who will buy multiplats for the console already have the console. People buy consoles for exclusives or consolve-limited releases like Destiny. Sony bet a lot on Destiny's long run and it really feels like they put up nothing during the holiday to compete with it. Would be great irony if the game ended up bitting them in ass in the long run.

As for the exclusives, the DriveClub is niche. It may push some consoles but I don't see some sort of mass spending spree on consoles just because of a racing sim. And LBP3 isn't exclusive and not exactly a title that will shift people from PS3s to PS4 or from anything else to PS4.

The release schedule is not the best for the holiday. That's why I am expecting them to do a GTAV bundle otherwise they have little in the block.

Your personal wishes are irrelevant IMO. Many people bough PS4/XB1 last year for multiplats, even though they also released on PC. Even this year many people bought PS4 when Watch Dogs released, even though it came to busy. You've got to realise that some people just simply prefer consoles over PCs for gaming in general.

You can't say that just because these new consoles are weaker than high-end PCs, no one will buy them for multiplats available on PC. That is just false. Some people do, but many do not.

My personal wishes? Where? I am speaking of reality that consoles now are not as they were last gen, and that PCs are ever more important as games find their way not only in being multiplat but being also offered on PC. The budgets are becoming so bloated that any big AAA-multiplat is almost guaranteed to find its way to PC because it needs more people to possibly buy the game. The more this happens and is happening, the less relevant the console becomes for multiplat offerings as they are no longer console limited. GTAV is an example of this.

Your comparison using W_Ds is a bad one because it had the same Destiny-esque treatment of massive console marketting campaign, as well as occuring during a massive console-gaming drought. Destiny had a massive marketting campaign behind it AND was console limited, and it helped push consoles far and wide. I see nothing even remotely similar to this coming over the holiday because Sony threw in its eggs with Destiny's long term appeal. So then, now, we look at the holiday... what's left? A racing sim and a platformer that isn't even exclusive. Like I said, you'll see the usual holiday bump but I don't expect anything more than that unless they do some sort of bundle or deal, or pull a game out of their ass.

*And I really don't have to realize what isn't true even remotely. Go ahead and compare active steam users to active all consoles put together, only if you include the 3DS does that comparison come even remotely close.

I'm expecting holiday sales which will make me mess my pants!

Personal wishes sounds like an accurate term. Vena you are underestimating the ps4 purely out of will
And to call Drive club niche is laughable. There's a reason SCEE is doing two bundles with it.

I say they will end up selling 3 million more than they have now, bringing the total to 13.9 to 14 million consoles at the end of the year.

1m BF week and 1m the week before Christmas.GUARANTEED!!!

I think it won't do much better than now. I have very low expectations for it. WIIU and X1 will do great.