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DerpSandwich on 19 September 2014

I know a lot of people are wary of Kickstarter when it comes to game development, but they've just updated their terms of use outlining the relationship between creators and backers.

"When a creator posts a project on Kickstarter, they’re inviting other people to form a contract with them. Anyone who backs a project is accepting the creator’s offer, and forming that contract...the contract is a direct legal agreement between creators and their backers.

The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers"

I hope this helps people pledge with a little more confidence.  I know that things don't always go right with Kickstarter campaigns, but these more clarified terms make things a bit more safe for backers.  It's a really important platform, and I feel that refusing to support a project you're interested in just because you're afraid of losing a few bucks or having to wait longer than you would like is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  If these new terms can sway anybody to consider pledging in the future, I'll be happy.

 

You can read the whole thing here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use#section4

(It's not very long.)



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Proxy-Pie on 19 September 2014

Interesting...



poklane on 19 September 2014

Sounds like a good improvement.



LemonSlice on 19 September 2014

I really wouldn't like to see people getting sued for failing to deliver on a project for honest reasons. I've seen people lambasted to no end even when tried to make right and were very honest about their project.

If I was posting a project on Kickstarter, I would be pretty scared. I'd rather skip kickstarter than be basically owned by entitled backers. This new term makes matters unbearable and seems hysteria-induced.



Teeqoz on 19 September 2014
cycycychris said:
So now people can sue to get there $10 back.

But I really hope this helps make a more honest system for Kickstart projects. It crazy how many of them fail to give the backers the game.


I'm pretty sure you could get more than 10$ from them, regardless of how much you actually backed.



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Burek on 19 September 2014
Teeqoz said:
cycycychris said:
So now people can sue to get there $10 back.

But I really hope this helps make a more honest system for Kickstart projects. It crazy how many of them fail to give the backers the game.


I'm pretty sure you could get more than 10$ from them, regardless of how much you actually backed.

But in reality you'll get jack shit because the money is long gone. Suing kickstarted projects is a waste of time and money, just cut your losses and be more careful next time. 



Teeqoz on 19 September 2014
Burek said:
Teeqoz said:
cycycychris said:
So now people can sue to get there $10 back.

But I really hope this helps make a more honest system for Kickstart projects. It crazy how many of them fail to give the backers the game.


I'm pretty sure you could get more than 10$ from them, regardless of how much you actually backed.

But in reality you'll get jack shit because the money is long gone. Suing kickstarted projects is a waste of time and money, just cut your losses and be more careful next time. 


Don't worry, I don't intend to ever sue a kickstarter, but because of the amount of stupid lawsuits that somehow are won I assume that you could probably get a too high amount of cash from this.



Dunban67 on 19 September 2014
DerpSandwich said:

I know a lot of people are wary of Kickstarter when it comes to game development, but they've just updated their terms of use outlining the relationship between creators and backe"When a creator posts a project on Kickstarter, they’re inviting other people to form a contract with them. Anyone who backs a project is accepting the creator’s offer, and forming that contract...the contract is a direct legal agreement between creators and their backers.

The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers"

I hope this helps people pledge with a little more confidence.  I know that things don't always go right with Kickstarter campaigns, but these more clarified terms make things a bit more safe for backers.  It's a really important platform, and I feel that refusing to support a project you're interested in just because you're afraid of losing a few bucks or having to wait longer than you would like is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  If these new terms can sway anybody to consider pledging in the future, I'll be happy.

 

You can read the whole thing here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use#section4

(It's not very long.)

Unless someone pledges a significant amount of money - in the tens of thousands AT LEAST then this stipulation has little or no practical use-

 



DerpSandwich on 19 September 2014
Dunban67 said:
DerpSandwich said:

I know a lot of people are wary of Kickstarter when it comes to game development, but they've just updated their terms of use outlining the relationship between creators and backe"When a creator posts a project on Kickstarter, they’re inviting other people to form a contract with them. Anyone who backs a project is accepting the creator’s offer, and forming that contract...the contract is a direct legal agreement between creators and their backers.

The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers"

I hope this helps people pledge with a little more confidence.  I know that things don't always go right with Kickstarter campaigns, but these more clarified terms make things a bit more safe for backers.  It's a really important platform, and I feel that refusing to support a project you're interested in just because you're afraid of losing a few bucks or having to wait longer than you would like is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  If these new terms can sway anybody to consider pledging in the future, I'll be happy.

 

You can read the whole thing here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use#section4

(It's not very long.)

Unless someone pledges a significant amount of money - in the tens of thousands AT LEAST then this stipulation has little or no practical use-

 

It's got a lot of use when you consider the concept of class action lawsuits.



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Bloodbath Paddy Wagon Ultra 9

noname2200 on 19 September 2014
DerpSandwich said:
Dunban67 said:
DerpSandwich said:

I know a lot of people are wary of Kickstarter when it comes to game development, but they've just updated their terms of use outlining the relationship between creators and backe"When a creator posts a project on Kickstarter, they’re inviting other people to form a contract with them. Anyone who backs a project is accepting the creator’s offer, and forming that contract...the contract is a direct legal agreement between creators and their backers.

The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers"

I hope this helps people pledge with a little more confidence.  I know that things don't always go right with Kickstarter campaigns, but these more clarified terms make things a bit more safe for backers.  It's a really important platform, and I feel that refusing to support a project you're interested in just because you're afraid of losing a few bucks or having to wait longer than you would like is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  If these new terms can sway anybody to consider pledging in the future, I'll be happy.

 

You can read the whole thing here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use#section4

(It's not very long.)

Unless someone pledges a significant amount of money - in the tens of thousands AT LEAST then this stipulation has little or no practical use-

 

It's got a lot of use when you consider the concept of class action lawsuits.

No, not really. Class actions are a bunch of work (hope you've got nothing but time!), they take forever (hope the dev is still around in three years!) and if you're not the class rep your recovery is going to be significantly smaller than if you brought the action yourself (hope a McDonald's combo is adequate compensation!).