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Forums - Sales Discussion - Hardware 9/13/2014 PS4 does 472k and Xbox One 172k + Global Software

 

How Long Before This Week is Adjusted?

0-24 hours 77 14.42%
 
1-7 days 99 18.54%
 
Post NPD 176 32.96%
 
Never 91 17.04%
 
See Results 91 17.04%
 
Total:534
chocoloco said:

Show me better math than Binary's math or,


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...



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prinz_valium said:


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...

I do not understand the , in the number.



chocoloco said:
prinz_valium said:
 


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...

I do not understand the , in the number.


in europe we use , and not .

 

4157k ps4 ltd

3348.5k xb1 ltd

 

hardware ratio:

1.24:1



FATALITY said:
472.885-171.486=''301.399''




That gif never gets old.



Not sure if it was mentioned already or not but PS4 has now overtaken the Wii U in overall software sales for this gen. (Home consoles)

PS4 - 29,882,938
WiiU- 28,800,676



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Blood_Tears said:
Not sure if it was mentioned already or not but PS4 has now overtaken the Wii U in overall software sales for this gen. (Home consoles)

PS4 - 29,882,938
WiiU- 28,800,676


u could put ps4 - 31 000 000 

fifa is coming



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)

Blood_Tears said:
Not sure if it was mentioned already or not but PS4 has now overtaken the Wii U in overall software sales for this gen. (Home consoles)

PS4 - 29,882,938
WiiU- 28,800,676


I was just about to point this out, something else of interest it passes the vita last week.



prinz_valium said:


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...

That is probably a more accurate number, given NPD forms the bulk of the raw data. I've never kept track of NPD LTDs so I am never able to reference them for situations like this.

Which makes the software sales margin of 1.26:1 (with big margin for error) look even better for PS4, because against most people's natural inclination it would mean the attach rate on PS4 is higher than Xb one. Because anyone with knowledge of FPS sales history in the USA knows that FPS sells best on Xbox, a higher attach rate for Destiny on PS4 is absolute proof that the exclusive deal between Sony and Acti worked out very well for Sony. This completely counters the post I initially responded to which feigned surprised at how little effect the exclusive arrangement seemed to have made. The numbers, with the inaccuracy caveat, actually prove exactly the opposite.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

binary solo said:
prinz_valium said:


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...

That is probably a more accurate number, given NPD forms the bulk of the raw data. I've never kept track of NPD LTDs so I am never able to reference them for situations like this.

Which makes the software sales margin of 1.26:1 (with big margin for error) look even better for PS4, because against most people's natural inclination it would mean the attach rate on PS4 is higher than Xb one. Because anyone with knowledge of FPS sales history in the USA knows that FPS sells best on Xbox, a higher attach rate for Destiny on PS4 is absolute proof that the exclusive deal between Sony and Acti worked out very well for Sony. This completely counters the post I initially responded to which feigned surprised at how little effect the exclusive arrangement seemed to have made. The numbers, with the inaccuracy caveat, actually prove exactly the opposite.



Well, using VGC numbers that gives you 1.26:1 on HW and curiously gives SW rate 1.26:1 is just a signal that VGC used their numbers for total HW for both platforms to estimate total SW not that they have close sales...

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
binary solo said:
prinz_valium said:


npd end of august ltd sales

ps4: 3950 + 1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 4157

xb1: 3209 +1st and 2nd september week vgc data = 3348,5

 

hardware sales ratio is 1,24:1

 

but its just marginal...

That is probably a more accurate number, given NPD forms the bulk of the raw data. I've never kept track of NPD LTDs so I am never able to reference them for situations like this.

Which makes the software sales margin of 1.26:1 (with big margin for error) look even better for PS4, because against most people's natural inclination it would mean the attach rate on PS4 is higher than Xb one. Because anyone with knowledge of FPS sales history in the USA knows that FPS sells best on Xbox, a higher attach rate for Destiny on PS4 is absolute proof that the exclusive deal between Sony and Acti worked out very well for Sony. This completely counters the post I initially responded to which feigned surprised at how little effect the exclusive arrangement seemed to have made. The numbers, with the inaccuracy caveat, actually prove exactly the opposite.



Well, using VGC numbers that gives you 1.26:1 on HW and curiously gives SW rate 1.26:1 is just a signal that VGC used their numbers for total HW for both platforms to estimate total SW not that they have close sales...

Yep, but we'll never have any conparative SW information that's more accurate to talk about. So either we don't talk at all about software sales or we take the numbers at face value and base our discussions on that objective, albeit inaccurate, information.

We have $325M sellthrough from somewhere divide by 60 = 5.4 million. But that's a terribly inaccurate figure because in lots of countries games cost a lot more than $60US equivalent. So VGC's 4.4 million estimate does not seem unreasonable. But we have no idea of the breakdown. Has anyone actually announced sales ratios globally?



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix