I think yes because the people that bought Wii has moved to smartphones, tablets and social games (that's why no one buys Wii U now)
I think yes because the people that bought Wii has moved to smartphones, tablets and social games (that's why no one buys Wii U now)
Mnementh said:
How apply N64, Gamecube or WiiU to the Family/Kids first formula? With Goldeneye? With Rogue Squadron? With Metroid Prime? With COD or Assassins Creed? They tried the Family-formula once, with the Wii. |
With N64 nintendo stuck with the cartridge format while everyone else was disc based, that put limitations on the software. Nintendo didn't think discs were kid friendly. Losing Final Fantasy 7 to sony was a huge blow and it feels like they never recovered the market they lost from that.
The gamecube looks like a purple lunch box and has a silly name. The PS2 and Xbox OTOH were considered sexier/macho/for people that liked mature titles.
Mnementh said:
How apply N64, Gamecube or WiiU to the Family/Kids first formula? With Goldeneye? With Rogue Squadron? With Metroid Prime? With COD or Assassins Creed? They tried the Family-formula once, with the Wii. |
I'd say slight miss (N64)- clear miss (GCN) - home run (Wii) - huge miss (Wii U).
The N64 did have successful early on in the US, but a lot of that was likely driven by the popularity of GoldenEye, other FPS, and Star Wars games that appealled to teenagers/adults. Unfortunately I think the entry of Microsoft basically took a lot of this audience away from Nintendo.
HBninjaX said:
I do agree with the original poster though... they need to get rid of the stigma that the system is just for 'fun for the whole family' and adopt a sexier image while not losing the family friendly one. The next system should look slick, have a slick name, and have a massive assortment of "adult" games and a marketing campaign that is designed to sell the sizzle --like it's a sportscar, not a station wagon |
lost all credability right there, Halo is as good if not better as anything nintendo can do.
spurgeonryan said: They still think that AMerica is god fearing. But parents do not care if their 5 year olds pay CoD as long as they shut up. Plus we are a Waring nation. We are bred to want to fight. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZIcfqmewU
BeElite said: Yes but i don't even thinks that's really a strategy of theirs, they just don't know how to make games of other types. Its a competence issue, if they believed they could make a Halo or COD they would at least try. |
I really doubt it's about competence either. Nintendo has made a game in about 75% of the genres and they do all of them very well. I'd say it's that they don't want to make a Halo or Cod. Their making a shooter, it's more about the potential audience. Their mindset is, hey it's rated E so 7-9 year olds can play it along with everyone else. They don't notice that it really works the opposite way. everyone plays M games and these "hardcore" teenagers-adults won't play anything beneath it. I doubt it's the same way in Japan so I can see why they don't understand it.
BeElite said:
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Metacritic ratings? oh, those don't count. Guess we'll just have to go off of opinion. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say they are equal.
and I could have just copy and pasted lost all credability, but hey, benefit of the doubt.
BeElite said:
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honestly i don't care if I lost credibility in your eyes if you believe that COD and Halo are examples of good games. Call of Duty went downhill fast after Modern Warfare 2. Now it's a simple arena shooter from early 2000 with different skins/guns (heck now they're copying Titan Fall) Halo may have been revolutionary on the original Xbox system but it's simply another "me too" shooter. They're both crap games that are cashing in on ignorant "gamers"
HBninjaX said:
honestly i don't care if I lost credibility in your eyes if you believe that COD and Halo are examples of good games. Call of Duty went downhill fast after Modern Warfare 2. Now it's a simple arena shooter from early 2000 with different skins/guns (heck now they're copying Titan Fall) Halo may have been revolutionary on the original Xbox system but it's simply another "me too" shooter. They're both crap games that are cashing in on ignorant "gamers" |
And mario was revolutionary on the NES.....
So a ME TO SHOOTER is crap when 3 decades later mario is the same damn thing, run and jump but its not crap.
Isent nintendo cashing in on ignorant gamers to by rehashing the same thing for 30 years ?
hypocracy is strong with you.
HBninjaX said:
honestly i don't care if I lost credibility in your eyes if you believe that COD and Halo are examples of good games. Call of Duty went downhill fast after Modern Warfare 2. Now it's a simple arena shooter from early 2000 with different skins/guns (heck now they're copying Titan Fall) Halo may have been revolutionary on the original Xbox system but it's simply another "me too" shooter. They're both crap games that are cashing in on ignorant "gamers" |
You have to understand Halo wasn't always that much of a shooter and it is a really good series, but calling it better than anything Nintendo can do is a bit of a stretch.