Well, due to Xbone's superior 3rd party support, in Nintendo's minds, software sells hardware, so um... since there are more software units available for Xbone than Wii U, it will outsell Wii U. I don't think Smash and Mario Kart will be enough to sell Wii U past 500,000K this holiday. Yes, I am a full blown Nintendo/Sony supporter but you can't beat the facts guys. A few good games don't sell more hardware units than tens of good/bad/mediocre games. One can only think of what happens after Zelda.

I can't be wrong for an opinion. I can call bullshit, but I never said you were wrong because you have your opinion. You are basing your opinion on facts that aren't even related to upcoming first party Wii U games.  

Honestly, just admit you are just as clueless as I am in regard to this holiday. You are making so many bold claims like you have researched this or you know crowds. 

PS3 and 360 are slowing down quite a bit. Halo is not the system seller it once was, relying on re-releases to even sell the game now. Those potential audiences have all moved to the PS4, the Xbox is just running on a niche crowd at the moment. 

Wii U, although true sells to core Nintendo fans, there is the non-core crowd that will buy a Wii U for Smash and other titles coming and past titles. Amiibos are selling out at retailers so it shows a strong demand for those. 

XB1 really has no advantage it has Halo. That game only appeals to low-brow dude-bro gamers whom if they were given a good proper game would say it sucks and compare it to CoD. 

Also what does Destiny have to do with anything? Destiny will not sell during the holiday. 

I have the last two years to draw on, more than enough for me to have a clue how this holiday will roll. It's people claiming WiiU is gonna make a comeback they need to provide a valid argument, because we've seen nothing of the sort despite many different methods of trying.

Halo is not a system seller. Is it not? How do you know? Halo 4 in 2012 was never going to shift as many Xbox's as Halo 3 in 2007 did, the game still sold 8m+ tho, the franchise is intact.

That crowd has not all moved to PS4, hence why XB1 is at 5.5 mill units and not 0. XB1 has the advantage of having a clear defined target audience. Wheather you like it or not, not every person looking for a next gen console will chose a PS4 over XB1 simply because it's a bit more powerful and has good word of mouth.

In regards to Destiny. You either didn't read or missed the point entirely. The ratio to PS4 shows us that multiplats are selling XB1's. 47% to 36%. If as you and every other person claims on here, that multiplats won't shift XB1's, the ratio would have been a gulf between the two. Except it isn't, wasn't with Madden either. And COD sells more on XB1 than PS4 in the states most months despite PS4 having a userbase advantage.

It's a myth that many have clinged onto, that multiplats don't sell XB1's. They have and will, especially this holiday.

The sales for xbox one surprised me this week. Japan didn't help a ton,, but something cause a boost in sales.

Multiplats are even pushing the bone right now. There will be tons more of them to do it soon. The Wii and Wii U are like consoles in different worlds in terms of of sales. Lowered expectations time.

Wii U will definitely sell amazingly well during the holidays, Nintend0mination confirmed!

Honestly what percentage of people who will buy Smash for Wii U didnt purchase a Wii U for Mario Kart? I cant believe the percentage is very high.

Wii U will definitely come in 3rd this Holiday.

I don't think it's really much of a doubt. I think Smash will be cripppled on the Wii U too by a lot of people having bought the 3DS version a month earlier too. 

Bad move on Nintendo's part these two games should've been spaced out much moreso. NSMB2/NSMBU was bad enough and I think both of those games sold less than what they would have otherwise had they been seperated by 1-2 years. 

I think MS will have some extremely aggressive XBone promotions this holiday. Probably free Master Chief Collection, maybe free Minecraft on top of that for holiday buyers and a $349.99 price cut for Black Friday. 

this is vg, im sure plenty still think wiiu can catch the PS4.

that was one of my favorite segments of MadTV bravo