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isn't the 3DS more powerful than GC? or have i been living a lie.



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Funny how part of the reason Ice Climbers aren`t in the game is because they probably won`t have another game yet we haven`t had an F-Zero game in over 10 years and Capt. Falcon is still in. Not complaining though, never really got attached to the Ice Climbers.



BasiltheBatLord said:
isn't the 3DS more powerful than GC? or have i been living a lie.


You've been living a lie. Considering mobile processors aren't the same as console processors. It's how well the game is rendered and calculated when displaying the characters. If you can do all the calculations of the jumps, plus handle an additional character sprite that has the same amount of polys as it's main counterpart. 



amak11 said:
DerpSandwich said:

If 3DS Smash ends up being a good way to play the game, I really don't see why the Wii U one would sell as well on one quarter the install base.  In fact it seems to me like every time they announce a new feature, it's a 3DS exclusive.  They're shooting themselves in the foot.  If the graphics are the only major difference, people aren't going to buy a whole console just to take advantage of that when they've already got a 3DS.

Hopefully they're just holding back on giving us much on the Wii U version until the 3DS one is out.  Because I'm not really seeing a reason to wait.

No, that's not the only difference. 

Only thing they share is the base modes and a roster. You have not watched any of the directs that talked about this and it shows in statements like the one I bolded. 

If you can point me to an article that backs this up I would love to see it.  (No sarcasm.)  I feel like I've watched every direct and I've scraped through every wiki and article I could find and could only find references to 3DS-exclusive modes and features, and absolutely zero Wii U-exclusive ones.  (I have no doubt that they'll be there, but not making them well-known this close to launch is foolish.)



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DerpSandwich said:
amak11 said:
DerpSandwich said:

If 3DS Smash ends up being a good way to play the game, I really don't see why the Wii U one would sell as well on one quarter the install base.  In fact it seems to me like every time they announce a new feature, it's a 3DS exclusive.  They're shooting themselves in the foot.  If the graphics are the only major difference, people aren't going to buy a whole console just to take advantage of that when they've already got a 3DS.

Hopefully they're just holding back on giving us much on the Wii U version until the 3DS one is out.  Because I'm not really seeing a reason to wait.

No, that's not the only difference. 

Only thing they share is the base modes and a roster. You have not watched any of the directs that talked about this and it shows in statements like the one I bolded. 

If you can point me to an article that backs this up I would love to see it.  (No sarcasm.)  I feel like I've watched every direct and I've scraped through every wiki and article I could find and could only find references to 3DS-exclusive modes and features, and absolutely zero Wii U-exclusive ones.  (I have no doubt that they'll be there, but not making them well-known this close to launch is foolish.)


They haven't actually specifically mentioned Wii U specific modes, but they have made clear that they will be there since before the 3DS exclusive content was announced.  

However, I think the way things are being handled are way more complex than you're making it out to be.  In my opinion, how well the Wii U version sells is still up in the air (relative to the 3DS version).  

When you want to look at how a certain game will sell, it's not always best (especially for games with multi-million person userbases) to rely on your personal feelings on purchasing games.  Many times, we are not the majority so if WE don't feel like purchasing the game, it doesn't mean most of anyone else doesn't want to as well.  Their rationale doesn't quite fit the whole "if the 3DS version seems the same, I'll get the 3DS version" scenario all the time.  There are plenty of other factors.  Some people I know want the Wii U version (even though they don't have one) because they can use a gamecube controller for it or play it on a big screen.  It's possible that these people may represent a larger number of people than those who think of it the way you do.

But again, you could be right... but what you said doesn't nearly cover the entire thing.  I personally think the most likely scenario is that the 3DS version will sell more, but the Wii U version will sell a relatively large number of copies (compared to the installed base).



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MDMAlliance said:


They haven't actually specifically mentioned Wii U specific modes, but they have made clear that they will be there since before the 3DS exclusive content was announced.  

However, I think the way things are being handled are way more complex than you're making it out to be.  In my opinion, how well the Wii U version sells is still up in the air (relative to the 3DS version).  

When you want to look at how a certain game will sell, it's not always best (especially for games with multi-million person userbases) to rely on your personal feelings on purchasing games.  Many times, we are not the majority so if WE don't feel like purchasing the game, it doesn't mean most of anyone else doesn't want to as well.  Their rationale doesn't quite fit the whole "if the 3DS version seems the same, I'll get the 3DS version" scenario all the time.  There are plenty of other factors.  Some people I know want the Wii U version (even though they don't have one) because they can use a gamecube controller for it or play it on a big screen.  It's possible that these people may represent a larger number of people than those who think of it the way you do.

But again, you could be right... but what you said doesn't nearly cover the entire thing.  I personally think the most likely scenario is that the 3DS version will sell more, but the Wii U version will sell a relatively large number of copies (compared to the installed base).

I know that not everyone feels the same as me, but I also know that Nintendo can't afford to take any chances when it comes to the Wii U's success.  If everyone had a Wii U then this would be different, and I would be psyched that the 3DS version was getting so much love.  But the Wii U is bombing hard, and this is one of the few games that the general populace cares about.  I'm sure plenty of people will buy a Wii U because of Smash, but how many won't?  How many 3DS Smash buyers will skip the system because Nintendo gave them the ability to do so?  To me, any amount is unacceptable, and I feel it's a bigger problem than most people seem to think.

I guess my point is that even if it ends up having less of an impact than I expect, it's still a really idiotic thing for Nintendo to do.  People are giving weight to some of the Wii U's upcoming games, but I'm of the opinion that beyond Marko Kart, Smash, Mario and Zelda, nothing's going to sell a lot of systems.  To cannibalize the sales of any of those games is just insane.



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The Ice Climbers can still come out Via DLC.

Maybe Nintendo is building hype for their DLC by including them in an Ice Climbers pack. Sounds like MANY people would buy it for them and some of their stages.

I say this because whatever Sakurai says sounds like Bullshit.



I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
The Ice Climbers can still come out Via DLC.

Maybe Nintendo is building hype for their DLC by including them in an Ice Climbers pack. Sounds like MANY people would buy it for them and some of their stages.

I say this because whatever Sakurai says sounds like Bullshit.


I was afraid of saying this but I absolutely agree, 110%.



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