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Zackasaurus-rex on 17 September 2014

That was adjusted back to normal rather quickly. xD

Although, given that VGChartz continue to rather stubbornly not adjust the global PS4 sales appropriately, we can expect that they're continuing to undertrack it weekly. They also have some history of overtracking the Xbox One, so I am curious about the accuracy in general here.

Mind, we're also observing an Xbox One boost from Japan and Tier 2, as well as a PS4 decline as people wait for the Destiny launch.

The next week data is going to be INSANE.



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Zackasaurus-rex on 17 September 2014
COLD_COBRA_ said:
lol @ Sony fans thinking ps4 will be able to compete now Xb1 is in tier 2 countries. Just wait until Xb1 is in tier 3,4 and 5 countires. PS4 2013 -2014 :/


Sarcasm doesn't always come across well on the internet. :P

EDIT: Sorry, I'm new here. I have to figure out how to avoid double posting... I used to run my own site/forum before I ran out of the time to keep managing it, and we had a nice function that would auto-attach a new post to the old one if double-posting were about to occur. I suppose I'll need to play with the BBCode.



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Welfare on 17 September 2014
Zackasaurus-rex said:
That was adjusted back to normal rather quickly. xD

Although, given that VGChartz continue to rather stubbornly not adjust the global PS4 sales appropriately, we can expect that they're continuing to undertrack it weekly. They also have some history of overtracking the Xbox One, so I am curious about the accuracy in general here.

Mind, we're also observing an Xbox One boost from the big free game promotion, as well as a PS4 decline as people wait for the Destiny launch.
The next week data is going to be INSANE.

This week was the tier 2 launch. Next week has the Xbox free game deal + Destiny launch. So yeah, next week will be massive. 



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

NobleTeam360 on 17 September 2014
Ninsect said:
NobleTeam360 said:
The funny thing is people were saying these countries wouldn't provide a boost for the Xbox One at all since they were already available in most countries in Europe. Now it's "well that's still bad, only a 30k boost"

30k is practically nothing at all...people were talking about tier 2 turning the battle around for X1 lol. The baseline will barely even be higher, although we won't see the new baseline until next year.

Never said 30k was anything, a boost is a boost. I didn't see any of the Xbox Empire members saying tier 2 would turn the battle around, which makes me wonder who are these masses of people supposedly saying that. 



Ninsect on 17 September 2014
NobleTeam360 said:
Ninsect said:
NobleTeam360 said:
The funny thing is people were saying these countries wouldn't provide a boost for the Xbox One at all since they were already available in most countries in Europe. Now it's "well that's still bad, only a 30k boost"

30k is practically nothing at all...people were talking about tier 2 turning the battle around for X1 lol. The baseline will barely even be higher, although we won't see the new baseline until next year.

Never said 30k was anything, a boost is a boost. I didn't see any of the Xbox Empire members saying tier 2 would turn the battle around, which makes me wonder who are these masses of people supposedly saying that. 

Well it tells you they weren't Xbox Empire members.



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DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
COLD_COBRA_ said:
lol @ Sony fans thinking ps4 will be able to compete now Xb1 is in tier 2 countries. Just wait until Xb1 is in tier 3,4 and 5 countires. PS4 2013 -2014 :/


When PS4 releases in the Moon and Mars not even Tier 5 will help X1... gazzillion of sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
Ninsect said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Ninsect said:

30k is practically nothing at all...people were talking about tier 2 turning the battle around for X1 lol. The baseline will barely even be higher, although we won't see the new baseline until next year.

Never said 30k was anything, a boost is a boost. I didn't see any of the Xbox Empire members saying tier 2 would turn the battle around, which makes me wonder who are these masses of people supposedly saying that. 

Well it tells you they weren't Xbox Empire members.


Or that they didn't post there... I won't name the guys for banning reasons, but some very supportive members of X1 used to say how much Tier 2 would boost X1 sells and make it overtake PS4, off course that was during February when X1 still hold closer to PS4...



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
Zackasaurus-rex said:
That was adjusted back to normal rather quickly. xD

Although, given that VGChartz continue to rather stubbornly not adjust the global PS4 sales appropriately, we can expect that they're continuing to undertrack it weekly. They also have some history of overtracking the Xbox One, so I am curious about the accuracy in general here.

Mind, we're also observing an Xbox One boost from the big free game promotion, as well as a PS4 decline as people wait for the Destiny launch.

The next week data is going to be INSANE.


Wellcome to our forum... on the double post as far as I know we are limited to 3 consecutive posts... and I'm not sure if you quote 2 people on the same answer both will get a blue mark on the VG Buddy.

About the precision... weekly is quite bad... but accumulated is fairly accurate because we correct USA based on NPD, Japan is always accurate and Europe+RoW is corrected by smaller trackers and financial statements (shipment figures)+estimative of number on shelves... RoW weekly is completely estimative since we have 0 data (it is calculate as a percentage of WW using PSN,Live,Ninty accounts).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dadrik on 17 September 2014

Oh well, adjustments.



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thismeintiel on 17 September 2014
COLD_COBRA_ said:
lol @ Sony fans thinking ps4 will be able to compete now Xb1 is in tier 2 countries. Just wait until Xb1 is in tier 3,4 and 5 countires. PS4 2013 -2014 :/

I don't know.  I think it will be Tier 7 that will finally put them over.  Kinda like FF7 did for Square.