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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2014
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FiliusDei said:
Destiny does not come close to halo. I feel sorry for bungie but they deserve the low scores.


Perhaps they deserve the score they have currently, but it has been said many times before that Destiny has been concepted to be a ten year game.


And this might change if it isn't successful. By now it looks like a “several weeks“-game.


I haven't played it yet, but the devs said the game changes after you hit level twenty so I am guessing there will be more including DLC.



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EspadaGrim on 15 September 2014
Aerys said:
Feeling a bit sad for 343i, forced to make Halo ans only halo like bungie was

Lol they were never forced, the studio was created with the purpose of taking over Halo from Bungie just look at the name of the devs.



Proxy-Pie on 15 September 2014

I liked it better when they focused on games that could "stand on their own".
I'm not too keen on buying a 60$ only for me to get a mediocre experience unless I pay a lot more for expansions and DLC -__-



bananaking21 on 15 September 2014
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Of course its liberating. MS would've made them make nothing but Halo for their rest of their natural lives. MS doesn't believe in creativity if there arent dollar signs attached to it.


What would you expect? It's the most successful horse in the stable. It's as if Sony would tell Polyphony to not let them make another Gran Turismo.


yeah because sony totally stood in the face of their best studio's making New IP's



bananaking21 on 15 September 2014
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FiliusDei said:
Destiny does not come close to halo. I feel sorry for bungie but they deserve the low scores.


Perhaps they deserve the score they have currently, but it has been said many times before that Destiny has been concepted to be a ten year game.


And this might change if it isn't successful. By now it looks like a “several weeks“-game.

and by this logic halo is a several days game. so its a step up from their previous franchise. 



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Mr Puggsly on 15 September 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I haven't played it yet, but the devs said the game changes after you hit level twenty so I am guessing there will be more including DLC.


Just think about that statement though.

It takes a good number of hours of tedious gameplay to even achieve level 20. I haven't kept track, but surely I've played over 10 hours and I'm level 18.

That's a lot of hours of playing and waiting for it to become genuinely good.



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walsufnir on 15 September 2014
bananaking21 said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FiliusDei said:
Destiny does not come close to halo. I feel sorry for bungie but they deserve the low scores.


Perhaps they deserve the score they have currently, but it has been said many times before that Destiny has been concepted to be a ten year game.


And this might change if it isn't successful. By now it looks like a “several weeks“-game.

and by this logic halo is a several days game. so its a step up from their previous franchise. 


Destiny has to prove that it is more worth it. Even nowadays Halo is played in multiplayer while given that 4 was way inferior than previous installments.

I don't know why you are eagerly trying to prove me wrong or to put Destiny in a better light. Don't you like Halo?



walsufnir on 15 September 2014
bananaking21 said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Of course its liberating. MS would've made them make nothing but Halo for their rest of their natural lives. MS doesn't believe in creativity if there arent dollar signs attached to it.


What would you expect? It's the most successful horse in the stable. It's as if Sony would tell Polyphony to not let them make another Gran Turismo.


yeah because sony totally stood in the face of their best studio's making New IP's

What? Where did I say so? This post is way off any logic. I didn't say anything to Sony's first studio development besides PD.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I haven't played it yet, but the devs said the game changes after you hit level twenty so I am guessing there will be more including DLC.


Just think about that statement though.

It takes a good number of hours of tedious gameplay to even achieve level 20. I haven't kept track, but surely I've played over 10 hours and I'm level 18.

That's a lot of hours of playing and waiting for it to become genuinely good.

Well...the game is partially an RPG that is breaking new ground for FPS on consoles. I would expect some grinding going on. Its something console gamers will have to get used to that PC gamers have invested in for years. The lines between are dwindling and this game will be growing over the course of ten years. Expect nothing but expansions for this game. Much like WOW it will see an ebb and flow in value. Lets see if they can hold onto the hype unlike Titanfall which started off strong with hype and dropped the ball past the first two months. 



michael_stutzer on 15 September 2014
Puppyroach said:

Once again, what does it have to do with anything if a studio is created for a purpose or bought because of a product they created? The way you look at it is that if they are employed directly, like 343i or Polyphony, they don´t have a will of their own, yet if they are in a former third party studio, free will is all they have. I get the feeling you only put this argument out because it fits the nerrative that Sony can do no wrong. I may be wrong.

You do believe Sony have not put any preassure on ND to produce Uncharted games at a high rate? Or that Polyphone have no choice but to put out new GT games? Compare the variety of ND games from the 90´s to the 00´s and now, fewer and fewer new IP´s. They both do this, MS and Sony are afraid to create new IP´s, that is why they push their strongest developers to keep putting out sequels to their strongest franchises.

How do you feel after saying such blatant lies? Are you hoping that in the flow of the post it would strengthen your argument and nobody would be careful enough to notice that it is simply not true? If anything the opposite is true.

Also there are plenty of new IPs coming, DriveClub, Bloodborne and The Order are both new IPs. Then there is the Guerilla new IP, rumored Santa Monica new IP etc etc. There are also many projects that may or may not be new IPs, such as the game the Bend is working on.