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toot1231 on 12 September 2014
torok said:
toot1231 said:
 

But, way better games.


I do have interest on a Wii U, but never on 3DS or DS. I'm not that I care that much about graphics, but it was hard to play N64 visuals in the same timeframe PS3 was available and it's hard to take Wii visuals with a PS4. Even on Vita it's just acceptable to play PS3-like games with a PS4 around.

"does not care about graphics"

proceedes to care about graphics.



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BOLLOCKS on 12 September 2014

If indies are profitable on teh Vita, why don't they fund more indie exclusives for it ?



hated_individual on 12 September 2014
toot1231 said:
torok said:
toot1231 said:
 

But, way better games.


I do have interest on a Wii U, but never on 3DS or DS. I'm not that I care that much about graphics, but it was hard to play N64 visuals in the same timeframe PS3 was available and it's hard to take Wii visuals with a PS4. Even on Vita it's just acceptable to play PS3-like games with a PS4 around.

"does not care about graphics"

proceedes to care about graphics.


He cant handle Wii visuals yet PSV has Wii visuals...



drdante on 12 September 2014

God damn it Sony! You got tons of profits from selling PS4 and 1st party games, how about use that money like 10% of it to create games.....no, only one AAA game is enough per year AT LEAST.



         

hated_individual on 12 September 2014
drdante said:
God damn it Sony! You got tons of profits from selling PS4 and 1st party games, how about use that money like 10% of it to create games.....no, only one AAA game is enough per year AT LEAST.


Sony is sick man of bosphor... Their stock is rateed junk... They are in twilight zone....

They dont have money...



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mjk45 on 12 September 2014
Kresnik said:
Nem said:

Just bring all those japanese games to the west and i will be fine with whatever. Especially pressure SEGA to get off their rear ends and work on phantasy star.

That phantasy star online 2 could have saved the vita.


That's the most depressing thing about all this.  Sony in the west will happily acknowledge the device as an indie machine or a kids machine, but won't do anything to promote the work that NISA/XSEED/IFI/Aksys are doing; or even their own localization work (i.e. Freedom Wars; Oreshika).

Japanese gaems in the west might not be as big as they used to be, but they're still worth at least mentioning.

My worries would have been laid to rest some what, if he had said indies kiddies and rpg's .

 They should have a policy in place to send the message that they see the vita as the platform for jrpg's, and also have a team to actively facilitate those endevours.



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mjk45 on 12 September 2014
michael_stutzer said:
Mr Puggsly said:
small44 said:


Sony support was not bad at all Gravity rush,Soul Sacrifice,Uncharted,LBP,Killzone.

People complain about the lack of Gran Turismo and God of war but those games are not even on ps4

In contrast the only effort by 3rd party was Assasin creed,other 3rd party has just released some late ports Activision didn't want to even develop on vita the cod game

But PS4 has a more noteworthy library of games and always had promising library down the road.

Sony put some noteworthy games on Vita early on, but they've clearly given up. Now they're telling people the upcoming library is basically just ports of indie games and other niche stuff.

Late ports of noteworthy games can still move some hardware. It would also be a bigger effort than we're currently seeing from Sony.

Their latest big budget games such as Tearaway and Killzone didn't sell well. Especially Tearaway did terrible and it was a great game. While everyone is dissappointed that they stopped supporting it so early on, making more big budget games for it would just throwing money away. If people were buying Tearaway and Killzone (both of which are very high quality games), they would still continue making them.  They also don't really move hardware. Vita sales were horrible for a long, long time.

what did they expect you take into account the userbase when creating your budget , also uncharted on the vita sold well when you compare it with early gen ps4 games .

A lot of this has to do with budget redirects to ps4 and thats no surprise and makes sense to a degree . What they should do is look at the success of persona 4 golden and try to get more of those classic jrpg franchise on to the Vita, whether thats  them encouraging 3rd partys to bring back franchises like grandia , siukoden etc or making new ones , it's cheaper to produce those type of games on vita and you don't need to sell 1mill or more just to break even.



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michael_stutzer on 12 September 2014
mjk45 said:
michael_stutzer said:

Their latest big budget games such as Tearaway and Killzone didn't sell well. Especially Tearaway did terrible and it was a great game. While everyone is dissappointed that they stopped supporting it so early on, making more big budget games for it would just throwing money away. If people were buying Tearaway and Killzone (both of which are very high quality games), they would still continue making them.  They also don't really move hardware. Vita sales were horrible for a long, long time.

what did they expect you take into account the userbase when creating your budget , also uncharted on the vita sold well when you compare it with early gen ps4 games .

A lot of this has to do with budget redirects to ps4 and thats no surprise and makes sense to a degree . What they should do is look at the success of persona 4 golden and try to get more of those classic jrpg franchise on to the Vita, whether thats  them encouraging 3rd partys to bring back franchises like grandia , siukoden etc or making new ones , it's cheaper to produce those type of games on vita and you don't need to sell 1mill or more just to break even.

Uncharted was a launch game. At launch most games do well as long as they aren't broken. Later in its lifecycle most games bombed.

I definitely agree that they may still do plenty of stuff such as trying to secure jrpgs, localizations and making relatively low budget games. The situation was bad by itself and they horribly mismanaged it. Just saying that expecting more big budget titles from both first party and the third party is not realistic. They don't sell enough.



MoHasanie on 12 September 2014

Well at least they're confirming that they won't give up on it.



    

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ikki5 on 12 September 2014

it is here to stay.... as sony's last handheld. lol