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ExplodingBlock said:
I think he is an idiot. If there isn't room for any console it would Xb1 since it is just to similar to PS4 while PS4 is better

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ExplodingBlock said:
I think he is an idiot. If there isn't room for any console it would Xb1 since it is just to sr to PS4 whimilaile PS4 is better


Well yeah that's why the X1 is losing to the Wii U now.  It's just a "Me Too" product like the Xbox brand has always been...



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reggin_bolas said:
Guys there is no such thing as a complimentary console or a secondary console. That's anti-consumerism. Companies shouldn't force you to buy more than one to play your favorite games.

Would it make sense for you to buy a Mac and a PC to play different computer-based games? No it doesn't.

Nintendo is becoming obsolete and irrelevant in the hardware industry.


You've got it backwards. Buying more is consumerism, buying less is anti.

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Nintendo's value proposition is unfortunately extremely weak.

You are forced to buy inferior hardware compared to PS4 to buy Nintendo games and only Nintendo backed-games.

You still have to buy a PS4 if you're interested in true-HD games including those made by third party publishers.



If you want Nintendo games, then a PS4 or Xbone is terrible value. People want Nintendo games, therefore, a place exists for Nintendo hardware.



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reggin_bolas said:
Nintendo's value proposition is unfortunately extremely weak.

You are forced to buy inferior hardware compared to PS4 to buy Nintendo games and only Nintendo backed-games.

You still have to buy a PS4 if you're interested in true-HD games including those made by third party publishers.


Not if you own a PC, in which case all consoles are weakly valued except for their exclusives. If people only cared about throughput, they'd just be buying PCs which are already getting cheaper to just build than the PS4 with better specs.

"You still have to buy a PS4 PC if you're interested in true-HD games at 1440p/60FPS..."

Gaming machines are bought for their exclusives and the environment provided by them, you're always "forced" to buy inferior hardware one way or the other.



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Gnac said:
If you want Nintendo games, then a PS4 or Xbone is terrible value. People want Nintendo games, therefore, a place exists for Nintendo hardware.


Pachter: "There is no place for logic."



Pachter? I figured he'd died or something, it's been ages since his opinions were covered on here. Must be for a reason.



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Pachter never predicted that Wii, DS, or 3DS would fail. He was very optimistic for all of them, though he did seem to think the Vita would outrun the 3DS. He was never bog on the Wii U's sales potential, with good reasoning to back him up.

Generally though, what seems to be the case is that Pachter doesn't have all that much more feeling with what the market wants than so many others do. He's making assumptions the best he can, as to advise investors about what different companies would do if they were looking to make money the traditional, American, capitalist way.

But Nintendo are not traditional American capitalists. Their product never aims to be where the market is assumed to move, based on where it's already been. Nintendo more often than not rely on moving the market in new directions by showing something surprising or unexpected to the world.

This tactic cannot be eqully successful every time. Or achieve success at the same speed. It's also unlikely to be executed equally well every time.

Saying that there isn't a place for Nintendo hardware will in the long run prove to be one of his sillier statements. Developers are moving back to consoles after the social media bubble has deflated, and parents are slowly moving back to giving their children sturdy handhelds with long life spans, instead of flimsy smart phones that other kids with ridicule for being outdated not half a year later.