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Forums - Politics Discussion - Lazy Americans.....‘We’re a Movement Now': Fast Food Workers Strike in 150 Cities (edit) OP is poor, don't act like I am being all high and mighty!

outlawauron on 05 September 2014
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:

No they don't. There are very few forms of birth control universally disliked or deemed sinful.

So who's pushing for Abstinence-only sex education, then? The chastity fairies?

I don't see how family planning is related to teaching abstinence.



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POE on 05 September 2014

I worked at McDonalds years ago, and it´s awful, the worst job in the world.



Nicklesbe on 05 September 2014
outlawauron said:
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:

No they don't. There are very few forms of birth control universally disliked or deemed sinful.

So who's pushing for Abstinence-only sex education, then? The chastity fairies?

I don't see how family planning is related to teaching absentience.

It's not, how ever for some reason the far right in the US are equally against family planing and workers rights.



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Hoodieninja on 05 September 2014
Nicklesbe said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:

No they don't. There are very few forms of birth control universally disliked or deemed sinful.

So who's pushing for Abstinence-only sex education, then? The chastity fairies?

I don't see how family planning is related to teaching absentience.

It's not, how ever for some reason the far right in the US are equally against family planing and workers rights.

Actually I feel that they are against any Government Regulations. A lot of the current Right Wing Republicans follow the teachings of Ayn Rand. They like her teachings of laissez-faire capitalism and rejection of Altruism.


People on the left tend to be more for Workers right and for Family Planning.



Mr Khan on 05 September 2014
BMaker11 said:

Let them have their $15/hr. You know what's gonna happen? People in currently higher paying jobs will, then, demand raises. You don't go to technical school, get a bachelor's, have years of experience, etc. to only get paid a few dollars more an hour than (not saying these are the only people with these jobs, but the credentials to get it are at this level) a 16 year old who takes your money at the register.

If the demand isn't met, people will leave their jobs and flood the food/service industry, leaving the higher skilled jobs open. Then those employers will incentivize people to come back by increasing the wage....because they need workers in order to operate. $15/hr will be the new $7.50/hr, one way or another

At the end of the day, the low skilled, minimum wage workers will still be at the bottom of the rung and their purchasing power will be the same as what it is now, because when they make $15/hr, somebody already making $15/hr will get $30/hr when everything is adjusted. Prices will go up in the wake of all this new spending, as suppliers are going to want to maximize profits. Once the market corrects itself to the new standard, the "$15/hr or we're walking out" people are gonna be in the same situation they're in now.

Higher wages should not be a reward remedial work. Higher wages should a reward for bettering yourself, developing skills, and becoming attractive to employers of tougher jobs than not everyone and their mother can do. There's a reason doctors get paid 100K+, engineers get paid 80K+, etc. It's because not everybody can walk in the door and do heart surgery or diagnose medical problems. Anybody can say "would you like fries with that?"

Prices only go up if there is no slack in the market. There is a LOT of slack in the market right now, labor and inventories.



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Mr Khan on 05 September 2014
outlawauron said:
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:

No they don't. There are very few forms of birth control universally disliked or deemed sinful.

So who's pushing for Abstinence-only sex education, then? The chastity fairies?

I don't see how family planning is related to teaching abstinence.

They have everything to do with each other: "Don't have sex until you're ready to make a baby," "have sex, take responsibility" which means get married and raise that kid, no matter what life-phase you're in, which is why they say "don't have sex."

Family planning is anathema to that, because it lets people run around and fornicate all they want without having to deal with any of that.



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Hoodieninja on 05 September 2014
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:

No they don't. There are very few forms of birth control universally disliked or deemed sinful.

So who's pushing for Abstinence-only sex education, then? The chastity fairies?

I don't see how family planning is related to teaching abstinence.

They have everything to do with each other: "Don't have sex until you're ready to make a baby," "have sex, take responsibility" which means get married and raise that kid, no matter what life-phase you're in, which is why they say "don't have sex."

Family planning is anathema to that, because it lets people run around and fornicate all they want without having to deal with any of that.

I think the worst thing about how religion goes by things when it comes to Sex-Ed. They keep them stupid and shame them for getting pregnant when they're is more than enough things out there to prevent pregnancy.



the2real4mafol on 05 September 2014

You can work hard but if you don't get anyway then what is the point? Working in a fast food place looks like one of the most repetitive, mundane jobs out there. But i don't know how you can call them lazy. Work is work isn't it? But the problem is the economy in more advanced countries really lacks a lot of industry now. You either get high pay, low pay or none at all. There is really nothing between anymore. How can expect someone to work hard when there are no opportunities to take advantage of it.

Unfortunately it's got to a point where people survive off working in McDonalds. That really shows how crappy the economy is if you ask me.

Also, if you're poor you're instantly discriminated against in a capitalist society. Intelligence is based on merit not wealth but when tertiary education costs such an extortionate amount, that really wastes people's potential.

If we humans are to survive we need a more compassionate society rather than being against each other in everything.



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the2real4mafol on 05 September 2014
LiquorandGunFun said:

low education deserves low pay. plus its not supposed to be a career. it is for experience.
 
Im all for replacing these peeps with robots.

And that will go down well! Not!



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Hoodieninja on 05 September 2014
the2real4mafol said:
1. You can work hard but if you don't get anyway then what is the point? Working in a fast food place looks like one of the most repetitive, mundane jobs out there. But i don't know how you can call them lazy. Work is work isn't it? But the problem is the economy in more advanced countries really lacks a lot of industry now. You either get high pay, low pay or none at all. There is really nothing between anymore. How can expect someone to work hard when there are no opportunities to take advantage of it.

2. Unfortunately it's got to a point where people survive off working in McDonalds. That really shows how crappy the economy is if you ask me.

3. Also, if you're poor you're instantly discriminated against in a capitalist society. Intelligence is based on merit not wealth but when tertiary education costs such an extortionate amount, that really wastes people's potential.

If we humans are to survive we need a more compassionate society rather than being against each other in everything.

1. you're right about that again I don't think people realize that the MIDDLE CLASS IS SHRINKING. While the Rich still become Richer

2. agreed

3. Tends to happen when debating about the Minimum Wage Poor people, they're INSTANTLY discriminated. It's fucking sad, they lump people in Poverty as DRUG USERS, and Lazy people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/01/04/economists-agree-raising-the-minimum-wage-reduces-poverty/

EVEN Bill Gates is for raising the Minimum as it REDUCES poverty.

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