All I have to say is I got hired by Allstate. I'm currently studying to get certification, however, they are paying for my studies and my test. I'm going to pass it. Don't talk to me about how bad fast food is, I hope automation takes over all that stuff. Stop acting like fast food places owe you something. want better, get better.

I hate the taste of it anyway. Garbage isn't good for you anyhow.

I also make money online using internet websites, so once I'm officially ready to go at allstate, I'll basically have two jobs while working one... And I have 0 dependants. No kids.

There's so much stuff out there. If you get stuck doing fast food, you deserve to be.

You're right that it was indeed for a PERSON, HOWEVER the MINIMUM WAGE was good enough in the 1950's to support a family and ALSO enough for a person to become independent.

exactly 10 plus years, you do realize Doctors also spend years paying off Student Loans and Debts? Actually it's part of the reason why Doctors are so expensive there education is very very expensive, again, they SPEND years sometimes Decades paying off debts.

DO YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO STUDY TO BECOME A DOCTOR?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/1-million-mistake-becoming-a-doctor/

I guess you forgot that the Standards for the poor have Drastically changed over the Decades to a point where the Rich have been becoming richer and the poor have been becoming poorer. The WEALTH gap has drastically increased faster than any other country while the MIDDLE CLASS is shrinking and poor are getting worse off than ever before.

Do you not understand the premise of "what's the point in going to school, developing skills, etc if I can just flip burgers and make the same money"? That's what people mean by "less productivity". It's one thing to have minimum wage and people still work because they need money. It's another thing to have minimum wage so high that there's no incentive to do other jobs. No incentive to become educated. No incentive to develop an array of skills. No incentive "think outside of the box", because you can just be a good for nothing and still be "good enough" to make great money. That's what "less productivity" means.

It's one reason everyone hates communism (I am not saying that raising the minimum wage is communist). Because "what's the point of getting this highly skilled job, that takes years of work to obtain....when I can get this low skilled job that pays the same?"

I don't care what minimum wage "could do". I care what it's "meant for". It's meant to prevent employers from exploiting employees. Simple as that. A person can be independent on minimum wage. But nobody tells you to, then, run off and make a family, then demand higher wages because of your actions.

And if you want to stick on doctors, that's cool. But what about engineers? They can get in and out of school in 4 years and make $90K a year and pay off their loans in 2 years. Wanna explain why their pay is so high? What about computer science grads? IT grads? I just used doctor because it's synonymous with "hard job that pays well", pretty universally. But there's other professions that make really great pay, and don't have 10 years of education needed. I stand by my statement of "not everyone can be [insert high paying job]; anybody can flip a burger"

And if you really think doctors are expensive because their education is expensive, then please find me a job that pays a low wage but has 10+ year experience requirements. Because what you're saying is that their experience and years of work have nothing to do with their higher wage; it was the cost of the education.

SAME MONEY? who said SAME MONEY?

Even if fast food restaurants earned 15 dollars a month THEY'LL STILL EARN much less than somebody working as a Physician.

No incentive to do other jobs? Says who? Again AS I SAID in the 1950's did it stop people from being Productive just because they were able to earn enough money to become independent and feed a family of 3? NO! they still strived to be better.

You're going on the assumption that HIGHER minimum = less productivity which isn't true, many people strive for much more. Did this stop people from being less productive in the 1950's and 60's? no, people still STRIVED for more. Except the standards for the MINIMUM wage earners was higher instead it's becoming lower.

In fact having a higher MINIMUM can also INCREASE productivity studies have shown this.

https://www.aamc.org/download/328322/data/statedebtreport.pdf
No these are exceptions the reason why Doctors pays are so high is because they have a lot of debt, it says in the article that a lot of them spend an Average of a Decade paying off Debts to become a Doctor.

You're assuming everybody has the same expertise to become Special and Better, You're assuming that EVERYBODY can make it in a high paying Job. You're assuming that everybody FLIPPING burgers = Lazyness. It's amazing how the right wing republicans and the rich have Spread this nonsense in the past Decades to keep the Minimum low.
Even if people can't MAKE it working as an IT, working as a Physician or studying to become one, they can still live a Decent life as a Minimum Wage Earner.
Even if they lost there job they can still work a MINIMUM wage job and be decently well off and can ease there burden while they can eventually try again.

Did I say they should run off and make a FAMILY living on minimum? wow...

Wait... people working fast food can afford to pay for union dues? What? If they need to make more money, stop paying for the stupid union on a garbage salary. Sorry to say this but I do kind of agree with the people when they say to go to school but at the same time, I understand that fast food is the only work they can get. But still, if you and your wife (or husband) both work fast food full time, you should be able to pay for your living and be able to afford a child. Sure it won't be a comfortable life but that's why you work to get the experience and move up the chain either in the company or to move to another, more stable job.

I don't disagree with this, I just think the Minimum should be raised to ease the burden on people starting with the Minimum.

Here's one thought:

Businesses will hire if demand for their service goes up. How does demand go up? More customers with the purchasing power to consider their products and services. How do we get more customers with higher purchasing power? Increase their pay.

What people don't seem to realize is that if fast food workers were to get paid say $15 an hour, those $8 extra an hour doesn't disapear, it will be put right back into the economy (and in most cases almost instantly) and drive profits in other sectors and eventually those extra $8 will end up where it always does: paying for someone's new yacht. The difference is only how many people those dollars touch on the way to that yacht.

That is the difference between the successful "raising the floor" economies in Europe and the "race to the bottom" mentality in the USA.