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Forums - Sony Discussion - More than 5 million active PSPLUS subscribers on PS4

A quality amount given Plus on PS4 is in its infancy, attach rate will go up once more higher end games enter "free" status on Plus.



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The amount of money Sony would make if they had 40+ million ps+ users with the PS3 is impossible looking at their year numbers.. Or really really really bad management..



 

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It is obvious that 53 million mentioned is the number of SEN accounts, so that would include PS3/4/Vita users, Music and Video users, and SOE online PC games accounts....
PS+ users on PS3 were probably just above a million, which makes sense. It was a non-essential service giving away digital downloads. Sure, it was good value, but I doubt many casual owners took advantage of it.



Damn, so there are likely more PS plus subscribers than there are X1 users. Not bad at all for a service that severly trailed Gold in the past



wary-wallaroo said:
Damn, so there are likely more PS plus subscribers than there are X1 users. Not bad at all for a service that severly trailed Gold in the past


If we take into account quite a few of X360 users moving to PS4, then it's not just an increase in PS+ members, but also a decrease in XBL Gold subscribers. 

It is not an accident that MS has not once since XOne's launch mentioned those numbers. They were very willing to give them out in the previous years...



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sully1311 said:

Lol, you are joking aren't you ethomaz? You really think that half of the PS3 userbase has Plus? ROFL!

No.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6643421

I read the news wrong.



Huh thought it would be higher, surprised half the userbase doesn't play online.



green_sky said:

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/01/31/ps-plus-subscriptions-triple-following-ps4-launch

Interpret it as how you will.

Ka-pi96 said:

How about this? http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/01/30/playstation-plus-subscribers-tripled-since-ps4-launch/

PS4 launch has caused the numbers to triple. If 5 million PS4 owners have PS+, probably less than that back in January, and a fair chunk of them probably have a PS3 or Vita as well and may have had PS+ before, then PS+ numbers would have been an absolute maximum of 2.5 million before PS4.

Read your own link.

Is it based on?

One simple cases that disprove your evidences:

 

Plus new subscriptions on last month: 100k new subscription
Plus new subscriptions after PS4 launch: 190k new subsctiption

90% increase after PS4 launch.

lol

 

The lifetime can be any number because the % are not related to lifetime Plus users but the increased over previous new subsctiptions.



Burek said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Damn, so there are likely more PS plus subscribers than there are X1 users. Not bad at all for a service that severly trailed Gold in the past


If we take into account quite a few of X360 users moving to PS4, then it's not just an increase in PS+ members, but also a decrease in XBL Gold subscribers. 

It is not an accident that MS has not once since XOne's launch mentioned those numbers. They were very willing to give them out in the previous years...

There is no real evidence that X360 users are moving to PS4 in any numbers of significant. People keep saying this as if its fact. 

The ONE poll out there simply asked what consoles the people had RIGHT NOW.  They would say X360 or Wii and then a PS4.  In this case.. ONLY 33% of that group had a WIi or X360 next to there PS4.    so THEN .. then number was thrown out that 33% of PS4 users never came from X360 or Wii.. But the poll NEVER asked if they had sold their PS3 when they bought their PS4.  So that number could be FAR FAR less. And the 33% figure included WIi users..    So again.    There is no real proof that X360 users of any signifcant amount now own PS4's.

 

On topic..    50% penetration with PS Plus is a little lower then I expected with moving to require it for ONLINE play.  I would figure that EARLY adopters of the PS4 would be bigtime gamers and more likely play online (and want free games) and or already had PS Plus for their PS3/Vita. I already had PS Plus when I bought my PS4.  Just surpisingly low in my eyes..



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cpg716 said:
Burek said:
wary-wallaroo said:
Damn, so there are likely more PS plus subscribers than there are X1 users. Not bad at all for a service that severly trailed Gold in the past


If we take into account quite a few of X360 users moving to PS4, then it's not just an increase in PS+ members, but also a decrease in XBL Gold subscribers. 

It is not an accident that MS has not once since XOne's launch mentioned those numbers. They were very willing to give them out in the previous years...

There is no real evidence that X360 users are moving to PS4 in any numbers of significant. People keep saying this as if its fact. 

The ONE poll out there simply asked what consoles the people had RIGHT NOW.  They would say X360 or Wii and then a PS4.  In this case.. ONLY 33% of that group had a WIi or X360 next to there PS4.    so THEN .. then number was thrown out that 33% of PS4 users never came from X360 or Wii.. But the poll NEVER asked if they had sold their PS3 when they bought their PS4.  So that number could be FAR FAR less. And the 33% figure included WIi users..    So again.    There is no real proof that X360 users of any signifcant amount now own PS4's.

 

On topic..    50% penetration with PS Plus is a little lower then I expected with moving to require it for ONLINE play.  I would figure that EARLY adopters of the PS4 would be bigtime gamers and more likely play online (and want free games) and or already had PS Plus for their PS3/Vita. I already had PS Plus when I bought my PS4.  Just surpisingly low in my eyes..


Why surprisingly low? Isn't it around the same with Gold to 360 owners?