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The best place to play 352 77.53%
 
Those games don't count, so it haz no gaemz. 101 22.25%
 
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wary-wallaroo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
wary-wallaroo said:
I honestly don't get where the whole "X1 has a better lineup" stuff came from. The Ps4 has way more games, way more consistently. It doesn't make any sense.

opinions, how do they work


Sure, but some people seem to state it as fact and then wonder how the PS4 could possibly sell so much more when it's pretty easy to tell the market has made it clear which console has the better lineup.....by far.

Exactly. Everyone has different tastes, but some people here act as if they speak for the entire industry when in fact they only speak for themselves. Those PS4 sales don't spring out of holes in the ground. They came from consumers who genuinely wanted one and because substantially more people purchased a PS4 than those who purchased an X1, the majority of consumers see the PS4 as a better investment.



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With all these games on both systems, you'd think some of yall would be playing them....



NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

You made your claim and had the opportunity to prove us wrong. You gave your list to show that your claim was true, but it backfired big time. I don't think telling me to list all the announcements since E3 will change that because looking back at the E3 and Gamescom threads, nowhere did I see people say that MS matched Sony announcement for announcement. Heck, on the Gamescom thread, people were talking about how Sony trumped MS on the amount of new announcements. All of the games MS showed during Gamescom were already revealed and the most surprising announcement was the time exclusivity of Tomb Raider. Doesn't match what you are claiming at all. Not even close... -_-"

I took three minutes to throw together a list from a montage...  Unfortunately I work for a living so don't have the time to sit there and go through all the stuff in the detail you have.

If you think my statements are factually wrong go and prove it or shut up.  Don't just keep saying "I'm wrong"... BACK IT UP...  You put together a sony list now go and put together the xb list from all conferences, shows, and announcements...

This is the third time I have addressed it...

I, too, am also busy, but I actually gave my list (on top of Ninsect's). And that list I made, I remember those titles from my head because they were all interesting and worth playing. I can do it again if you want me to. When I see your list, it looked like it was frantically put together and cut-and-pasted from Wikipedia. Saying that you work for a living is not an excuse. If you were so confident that what you claimed was true, you would've instantly put up that list without fail on first try. You would've remember almost every single title because those titles were interesting to you and don't need to be searched online. However, you did not because you can not. There's no reason for me to do the work for you when it was originally your job to back up your own claim. I did my job, now you do yours.



Multishanks said:
With all these games on both systems, you'd think some of yall would be playing them....

Best response of the thread LOL

(I am aware it applies to me as well)



Aura7541 said:
NeoRatt said:
Aura7541 said:

You made your claim and had the opportunity to prove us wrong. You gave your list to show that your claim was true, but it backfired big time. I don't think telling me to list all the announcements since E3 will change that because looking back at the E3 and Gamescom threads, nowhere did I see people say that MS matched Sony announcement for announcement. Heck, on the Gamescom thread, people were talking about how Sony trumped MS on the amount of new announcements. All of the games MS showed during Gamescom were already revealed and the most surprising announcement was the time exclusivity of Tomb Raider. Doesn't match what you are claiming at all. Not even close... -_-"

I took three minutes to throw together a list from a montage...  Unfortunately I work for a living so don't have the time to sit there and go through all the stuff in the detail you have.

If you think my statements are factually wrong go and prove it or shut up.  Don't just keep saying "I'm wrong"... BACK IT UP...  You put together a sony list now go and put together the xb list from all conferences, shows, and announcements...

This is the third time I have addressed it...

I, too, am also busy, but I actually gave my list (on top of Ninsect's). And that list I made, I remember those titles from my head because they were all interesting and worth playing. I can do it again if you want me to. When I see your list, it looked like it was frantically put together and cut-and-pasted from Wikipedia. Saying that you work for a living is not an excuse. If you were so confident that what you claimed was true, you would've instantly put up that list without fail on first try. You would've remember almost every single title because those titles were interesting to you and don't need to be searched online. However, you did not because you can not. There's no reason for me to do the work for you when it was originally your job to back up your own claim. I did my job, now you do yours.

After E3 I went through both Sony and MS' conferences announcement for announcement...

This was the result...

went through both conferences and this was my assessment...

Sony showed new KZ DLC... MS showed new DR3 DLC...

Sony showed The Order (2015)... MS did not show Quantum Break (2015)...

Sony did not show DriveClub... MS showed Forza Horizon 2...

Sony put out Entwined today ($9.99)... MS put out Forza Nurbring today (Free)...

Sony showed Battlefield 4 with PS4 timed exclusivity... MS showed CoD AW with X1 timed exclusivity...

Sony showed Destiny and talked about exclusive content... Microsoft showed Evolve and talked about exclusive content...

Sony announced a white SKU with Destiny... MS announced Threes for XB...

Sony talked PSN... MS announced Happy Wars for XB...

Sony talked their camera... MS had Disney Fantasia and Dance Central for Kinect...

Sony talked Grim Fandango... MS showed Sunset Overdrive...

Sony announced new DLC for infamous... On the Green Carpet before the show MS announced new DLC coming for Titanfall...

Sony announced LBP3... MS had Project Spark...

Sony showed Far Cry 4 with PS4... MS showed Assassin's Creed Unity...

Sony showed Dead Island 2...

Sony talked about Disney Infinity 2 exclusive launch...

MS announced Scalebound...

Sony showed Magicka 2 exclusive... MS announced Phantom Dust...

Sony announced a bunch of Indie games and F2P games... MS announced just as many Indie games...

Sony announced Let It Die... MS announced Crackdown reboot...

Sony announced Abzu... MS announced Ori and the Blind Forest...

Sony announced No Man's Sky first on PS4... MS announced Inside first on XB...

Sony showed Mortal Kombat X... MS showed Killer Instinct Season 2...

Sony talked Ratchet and Clank remastered... MS no more remasters in 2015 yet...

Sony talked Last of Us remastered... MS talked Halo Master Chief Edition...

Sony announced Bloodborne... MS had Fable Legends...

Sony showed MGS V... MS announced next Tomb Raider...

Sony announced GTA V for PS4... MS showed Witcher 3... Both multi-platform...

Sony talked Batman Arkham Knight with exclusivity... MS showed Dragon's Age with exclusivity...

Sony showed UC4 trailer... MS showed Halo Guardians Beta trailer...

All-in-all it looks pretty even... If you actually watched both conferences... But then again a lot of over zealous fans can't seem to see through the marketing BS and only see what they want to see...

If you want go through all the other conferences and do the same...  I've done E3 which was the largest.



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Landguy said:


Clearly, the PS4 has more games available on it.  No debate there.

But, if your going to use Metacritic, which is just a compilation of others opinions, you make your point kind of mute. The total is black and white.   The listing of a group of opinions is not a definition in itself. What is the total of games that released a retail release on the PS4/XB1 and their combined ratings? Then you could list a crapload of ports that are only being ported because they were popular on another format.  For the ports, they would mostly have good ratings or they wouldn't have sold well and they wouldn't be ported to begin with.  The numbers are skewed either way.  The only games list that MOST people care about are the system exclusives.  Not the ports or minigames, even though they are nice to have when the gaps between major releases happen(first 18 months of any console launch). 

Nobody will convince me that any significant amount of buyers are getting any of the 3(PS4/XB1/WiiU) 8th gen systems for the indies and ports.  The metacritic scores are mostly meaningless to buyers(look at COD/BF/AC games or Flappy Bird) of games.  Even then, critics score games based on the intent of the game, meaning that they consider that it is a port or indie game and rate it against games of that nature.

If someone doesn't have a cell phone or tablet or PC, then the other games have a lot more value and might actually sell to them.  The problem is, that most people  have one of those three items.  Most of the indies/ports are available that way or have a nearly identical game to it.  There are MILLIONS of games available to those 3 platforms. 

The point of this OP isn't proving anything.  People already know that if they are going to buy a PS4 or XB1, its about the retail games.  Of the retail games, it's only the AAA that really matter.  With that in mind, both systems are very similar.  For this list to make sense, I would have to sell 3 cell phones, 4 computers, 4 tablets in my home before i would start to care for most of the titles for either of the 2 systems.

I know quality is subjective, but it's a quick way to say the idea that the Xbox One has an objectively better library is frankly bollocks.

Why the games are on the system (because they were good to begin with, according to you) is irrelevant.

Whether they are system sellers or not by themselves is also irrelevant.

Most (all?) of PS4's games are not available on smartphones and tablets.

The OP proves something very clearly. The "PS4 has no games, Xbox's library is better" meme is BS. Seeing as no one is trying to refute that point, and trying to downplay the PS4's library in and of itself, I'd say it succeeded.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Multishanks said:
With all these games on both systems, you'd think some of yall would be playing them....

Best response of the thread LOL

(I am aware it applies to me as well)


Lol thanks I guess I am guilty too because i posted. Better practice what I preach



this is pretty amazing and telling when you consider all of the claims of ps4 having no games that have been popping up over the past few months



NeoRatt said:

After E3 I went through both Sony and MS' conferences announcement for announcement...

This was the result...

went through both conferences and this was my assessment...

Sony showed new KZ DLC... MS showed new DR3 DLC (DR3 is going on PC)...

Sony showed The Order (2015)... MS did not show Quantum Break (2015)...

Sony did not show DriveClub... MS showed Forza Horizon 2...

Sony put out Entwined today ($9.99)... MS put out Forza Nurbring today (Free) (Nonrelated)...

Sony showed Battlefield 4 with PS4 timed exclusivity... MS showed CoD AW with X1 timed exclusivity...

Sony showed Destiny and talked about exclusive content... Microsoft showed Evolve and talked about exclusive content...

Sony announced a white SKU with Destiny... MS announced Threes for XB (In which the PS4 SKU is outselling all 3 combined because it's of better value)...

Sony talked PSN... MS announced Happy Wars for XB (Again unrelated)...

Sony talked their camera... MS had Disney Fantasia and Dance Central for Kinect (How is this a match? Actually, why would you even include this when it doesn't really appeal to the core?)...

Sony talked Grim Fandango... MS showed Sunset Overdrive (Again! Unrelated)...

Sony announced new DLC for infamous... On the Green Carpet before the show MS announced new DLC coming for Titanfall (Titanfall is on PC)...

Sony announced LBP3... MS had Project Spark (No one has really talked about Project Spark. LBP3, on the other hand...)...

Sony showed Far Cry 4 with PS4... MS showed Assassin's Creed Unity...

Sony showed Dead Island 2...

Sony talked about Disney Infinity 2 exclusive launch...

MS announced Scalebound...

Sony showed Magicka 2 exclusive... MS announced Phantom Dust...

Sony announced a bunch of Indie games and F2P games... MS announced just as many Indie games (Like...?)...

Sony announced Let It Die... MS announced Crackdown reboot (Okay, seriously. Enough with the unrelated comparisons)...

Sony announced Abzu... MS announced Ori and the Blind Forest...

Sony announced No Man's Sky first on PS4... MS announced Inside first on XB...

Sony showed Mortal Kombat X... MS showed Killer Instinct Season 2 (Another unrelated comparison. KI: S2 is not a new game. It's an add-on)...

Sony talked Ratchet and Clank remastered... MS no more remasters in 2015 yet...

Sony talked Last of Us remastered... MS talked Halo Master Chief Edition...

Sony announced Bloodborne... MS had Fable Legends (You know, since you did this with Guilty Gear. I'm going to do the same with Fable Legends. It's not going to do well in both sales and reviews because the previous entries were pretty darn bad)...

Sony showed MGS V... MS announced next Tomb Raider...

Sony announced GTA V for PS4... MS showed Witcher 3... Both multi-platform...

Sony talked Batman Arkham Knight with exclusivity... MS showed Dragon's Age with exclusivity...

Sony showed UC4 trailer... MS showed Halo Guardians Beta trailer ...

All-in-all it looks pretty even (You don't just count the announcements and then haphazardly put them side by side)... If you actually watched both conferences... But then again a lot of over zealous fans can't seem to see through the marketing BS and only see what they want to see...

If you want go through all the other conferences and do the same...  I've done E3 which was the largest.

So you only did E3 which was Sony's worst conference this year. E3 is also the first major conference, so it's pretty obvious that Sony and MS would announce relatively the same. However, you have to do consistently well in ALL conferences. It's like in American football, you have to score well in all 4 quarters or otherwise the other team will outscore you. MS showed most of their hand and had almost nothing to show in Gamescom. Tokyo Game Show is an even worse situation for MS while Sony just had their pre-TGS conference on Sep. 1 and are having another one on the 17th. Sony was smart to spread out their announcements to keep their conferences fresh.

As a result, you still need to address the following:

The Tomorrow Children
Volume
Omega Quintet
Natural Doctrine
Dragon Quest Heroes
Persona 5
Hellblade
DayZ
H1Z1
Planetside 2
P.T. (Silent Hills)
Tearaway Unfolded
Until Dawn
Hollowpoint
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
Alienation
Wild
Ys
Gran Turismo 7
The Witness
Without Memory
God Eater 2
Yakuza: Zero
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Rime
Shadow of the Beast
Hotline Miami 2
N++
Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Senran Kagura: Estvial Versus
Salt and Sanctuary
Disgaea 5
Hot Shots Golf
Without Memory
Dust: An Elysian Tail
MLB 15: The Show
Natural Doctrine
Samurai Warriors 4
The Witness
Rays the Dead

So you need to "match" 41 more titles. Not to mention, the list doesn't include unacnnounced projects from Sony's other 1st parties like Guerilla Games, Guerilla Cambridge, Sony London (they confirmed to have 2 projects), Santa Monica Studio, Media Molecule (their new IP, not Tearaway), Quantic Dream, and more. Also, the PS4 will have its Tales and Atelier games, too.

Add onto the fact that PS4 already has a lot more games than the X1 thus far, this is no contest. Point being, PS4 had more games then, has more games now, will have more in the near future, and will have even more games in the far future.



Twice the sales and twice the games... Fair. And once japanese games like Dragon Quest Heroes, Persona 5 and God Eater 2 + westerns like Bloodborne (actually, japanese, but you know) + The Order 1886 + Uncharted 4 comes out... There won't be much competition, will it? Even Master Chief couldn't win this 'boss'.



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