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I like playstation consoles (ps3 was my favorite last gen) , but this is why I am disgusted with their brand. Playstation brand name carries them through everything. You're telling me a 600 dollar console with little to no games can outdo the Wii U at a way cheaper price with more games? That is such BS.

I agree with almost everything here except the last part. One can always be sure they will get solid Nintendo games on a Nintendo consoles. Yes for 3rd party games you are correct, but in general people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. The only exceptions were the SNES and the N64.

Essentially people like this are positivity crushers. They see that Nintendo fans are happy that the console has been on the up and up so they have to show comparative data to crush that celebration hard and show that console is not doing as well as it could be. Maybe because they want to see the X1 doing better and can’t stand that the Wii U is selling more than it at the moment, so they lash out. Even if the data has nothing to do with the happiness that people are experiencing, which are sales are up!

Only the overly optimistic fan would think that the Wii U will sell over 25 million LT. But should that stop fans from being happy at the Wii U’s personal successes, like a big increase in sales over the previous year?

At this rate I think the generation will end with X1 and Wii U in close 2nd and 3rd positions, with the PS4 having a massive lead on both of them. Much like the GCN and Xbox compared to the PS2. But whatever, I love my Nintendo games as much I love my Playstation and PC games, and I am not going to stop being happy with Nintendo’s wins here and there just because they are coming third in the console race.

See, that's the point! What does matter is not the Wii U selling good or bad, it's about if we find ourselves satisfied with the games we experience. The Wii success left me a bitter taste in mouth because Nintendo had trouble keeping a steady pace of games ongoing so I could try out new experiences. But then I bought a Wii U, found myself playing my first Pikmin game and really enjoying the gameplay, tried out Wind Waker for the first time and be able to play IMO the best DK game released ever.

In the end, I just wonder why is it so important to make those kind of threads while the forums here are supposed to gather the gaming population, not tear it apart and divide people. We live in a time where were really unsure about the future of console gaming, and I think we should remain supportive about the whereabouts of any console, good or bad. Creativity may be the only thing left that hadn't been totally gone from this industry. As we speak, more and more studios are shutting down or moving over cheapass 1$ games on smartphones.

We need to stop pointing out how badly the Wii U sells, and start being positive about the games. It's all that always mattered, the games. And Nintendo still hasn't give up about the console just yet, as you can see with all the upcoming AND already released games that braced the Wii U, from MK8 to Splatoon. May I remind everyone that releasing that much games in a year, for two consoles, at this rate without any 3rd parties backing up is pretty fantastic to my eyes. Maybe not sufficient, but still, Nintendo fights and so you need to. We need to struggle to keep this afloat and purify the threads on VG from all the crap that some users are willing to put on it just for the sake of sensationalism.

Yes, yes I would. What do you propose?

See, that's the point! What does matter is not the Wii U selling good or bad, it's about if we find ourselves satisfied with the games we experience. The Wii success left me a bitter taste in mouth because Nintendo had trouble keeping a steady pace of games ongoing so I could try out new experiences. But then I bought a Wii U, found myself playing my first Pikmin game and really enjoying the gameplay, tried out Wind Waker for the first time and be able to play IMO the best DK game released ever.

In the end, I just wonder why is it so important to make those kind of threads while the forums here are supposed to gather the gaming population, not tear it apart and divide people. We live in a time where were really unsure about the future of console gaming, and I think we should remain supportive about the whereabouts of any console, good or bad. Creativity may be the only thing left that hadn't been totally gone from this industry. As we speak, more and more studios are shutting down or moving over cheapass 1$ games on smartphones.

We need to stop pointing out how badly the Wii U sells, and start being positive about the games. It's all that always mattered, the games. And Nintendo still hasn't give up about the console just yet, as you can see with all the upcoming AND already released games that braced the Wii U, from MK8 to Splatoon. May I remind everyone that releasing that much games in a year, for two consoles, at this rate without any 3rd parties backing up is pretty fantastic to my eyes. Maybe not sufficient, but still, Nintendo fights and so you need to. We need to struggle to keep this afloat and purify the threads on VG from all the crap that some users are willing to put on it just for the sake of sensationalist

So how do you explain the DS and 3DS? Do really only a few people buy Nintendo games? 

I highly doubt it.

Excellent post. And sadly this will get drown out by those who would rather sit here anf cheerlead for.their favorite brand .  Its like Mass effect. Shepherd is trying to gather everyone around for th e real threat but some people cant  see the forest from the trees.