Lol all 3 Smash games are in the top 10 selling fighting games, 2 are in the top 3, never realized. I play competitive fighters and funny enough was never into Smash until recent years, it's probably the hardest fighting game at the highest level, no random player is going to beat a good Smash player.

what about random item help or crazy maps?

Well I am going to buy one just for SSB whenever they decide on a RELEASE DATE.

Seriously, we don't even know if it will be ready in time for this holiday.

What'll save Wii U

New Name

Gamepadless SKU

and Smash+Zelda

Smash will move console thats it end off. With some more marios mario partys zeldas smashes etc wii u will sell fine

Thats why competitive take off items and ban certain maps

Im a competitive player but its still cool to play with itms on (especially pokemon only @.@

Nintendo shuld clarify when inSept (direct maybe?). I dont think it'll be delayed solely to the fact of amiibos. Pre orders just opened up for them.

Also the latest Wii U trailer still had it at "Holiday 2014". They won't delay their most important game for the rest of the year, don't worry!

2 reasons: Competitive gamers (the ones that do EVO and crap) play console versions of games. Many people will buy a Wii U because of Smash Bros alone. It's a big 6 release: Mario Kart, Smash Bros, full 3D mario adventure, Mario Party, Legend of Zelda, Metroid. This are titles that in one way shape or another always sell consoles.

and...

It's a new and rather large release that has, not only gamecube controller support, but the multi-game feature of Amiibo.

It can all be turned off and maps can be chosen.