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padib said:

Let me calculate.

At 150k weekly, we have 4 months so 16 weeks. 2.4m. Okay let's add 500m for holiday boost so 3m.

PS4 will be at 13m and U will be at 11m. I believe the U will outpace the PS4 by 1 mil from Sept to Dec due to holiday and Smash spike.

First of all there are more than 16 weeks left between the current VGC numbers and the end of the year.  Second, you think there will be no hardware sales increase for the releases of PS4 software.  Third, your expectation for the holiday boost is absurdly small (unless you actually meant 500m).  The PS3 in 2007 did 2.9m in the six week period starting the week of Black Friday 2007.  If you go back to August 25th, it did ~4.6m in the period that you expected the PS4 to do 2m, and now expect it to do 3m.  Also I like how your Wii U prediction also went up by a million just because your original PS4 prediction was ridiculous.

I was considering replying to your late bloomer thread, but I have to assume you are just trolling with these numbers.



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padib said:
DD_Bwest said:

im bookmarking this post, and will bring it up again when we get september numbers and its already close to 12,   then again in october when it hits 13,   again in november when it hits 15,  and again in december when it hits 17m.

 

You have to be living in a different world to think the ps4 would have sales like that.   infact i will take a bet with you that the gap will be larger than 4 million at the end of the year

Bet accepted. 1 month avi control and in sig there must be a statement saying that the person who won was right and the person who lost was wrong. I bet that the Wii U sales will be greater than (PS4 sales minus 4mil), you bet that the PS4 sales will be greater than Wii U sales by 4 mil.

Deal? If yes, reply here then put the bet in your sig.

"I bet with padib that the PS4 will outsell the WiiU by 4million by the end of 2015. I win if it's true, he wins if it's not."


deal,   We are talking about world wide sales,  and we wait until feb so IoI can adjust.   and if there are any adjustments after that, that changes the outcome it reverses and avi and sig control switch.

and if you renig on the bet in any way i get to call you out in my sig



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Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz

padib said:
DD_Bwest said:
padib said:

Bet accepted. 1 month avi control and in sig there must be a statement saying that the person who won was right and the person who lost was wrong. I bet that the Wii U sales will be greater than (PS4 sales minus 4mil), you bet that the PS4 sales will be greater than Wii U sales by 4 mil.

Deal? If yes, reply here then put the bet in your sig.

"I bet with padib that the PS4 will outsell the WiiU by 4million by the end of 2015. I win if it's true, he wins if it's not."


deal,   We are talking about world wide sales,  and we wait until feb so IoI can adjust.   and if there are any adjustments after that, that changes the outcome it reverses and avi and sig control switch.

and if you renig on the bet in any way i get to call you out in my sig

It's a deal. Renig goes both ways. Total avi and sig control is 1 month total (includes time before a reversal in case of re-reversal)

Please put this in your sig, I will put converse:

"I bet with padib that the PS4 will outsell the WiiU by 4million by the end of 2015. I win if it's true, he wins if it's not."

Good luck


i dont like the way thats worded and you got the year wrong lol,   how bout "I bet with padid that By end of 2014 the PS4 worldwide Lifetime sales will be larger than WiiU world wide Lifetime sales by 4 million. He wins if the gap is small than 4 million."



I am Torgo, I take care of the place while the master is away.

"Hes the clown that makes the dark side fun.. Torgo!"

Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz

padib said:

If I were trolling I would have said 500m.

I will bet with DD_west we will see in time who is right. The PS4 might not follow the PS3 trends, because it may have been front-loaded. Destiny will sure be big but it's coming out on X1 as well.

The PS4's sales week ending Aug 23rd are 72% higher than the PS3 was the week ending Aug 25th 2007.  But yeah, I'm sure the PS4 will start falling behind dramatically any day now.

Also your bet with DD won't really show who is right, at least for our discussion.  The way it is setup you can still be wrong yet win the bet.  You expect the gap to narrow to 2 million, yet the gap could widen to 3,999,999 and still see you win the bet.



Yakuzaice said:
padib said:

If I were trolling I would have said 500m.

I will bet with DD_west we will see in time who is right. The PS4 might not follow the PS3 trends, because it may have been front-loaded. Destiny will sure be big but it's coming out on X1 as well.

The PS4's sales week ending Aug 23rd are 72% higher than the PS3 was the week ending Aug 25th 2007.  But yeah, I'm sure the PS4 will start falling behind dramatically any day now.

Also your bet with DD won't really show who is right, at least for our discussion.  The way it is setup you can still be wrong yet win the bet.  You expect the gap to narrow to 2 million, yet the gap could widen to 3,999,999 and still see you win the bet.


you really dont need to worry there is no way hes gonna win the bet lol the gap will be larger then 4 million by the end of sept lol and it wont look back.   This bet is almost cruel



I am Torgo, I take care of the place while the master is away.

"Hes the clown that makes the dark side fun.. Torgo!"

Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz

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padib said:
Yakuzaice said:
padib said:

Let me calculate.

At 150k weekly, we have 4 months so 16 weeks. 2.4m. Okay let's add 500m for holiday boost so 3m.

PS4 will be at 13m and U will be at 11m. I believe the U will outpace the PS4 by 1 mil from Sept to Dec due to holiday and Smash spike.

First of all there are more than 16 weeks left between the current VGC numbers and the end of the year.  Second, you think there will be no hardware sales increase for the releases of PS4 software.  Third, your expectation for the holiday boost is absurdly small (unless you actually meant 500m).  The PS3 in 2007 did 2.9m in the six week period starting the week of Black Friday 2007.  If you go back to August 25th, it did ~4.6m in the period that you expected the PS4 to do 2m, and now expect it to do 3m.  Also I like how your Wii U prediction also went up by a million just because your original PS4 prediction was ridiculous.

I was considering replying to your late bloomer thread, but I have to assume you are just trolling with these numbers.

If I were trolling I would have said 500m.

I will bet with DD_west we will see in time who is right. The PS4 might not follow the PS3 trends, because it may have been front-loaded. Destiny will sure be big but it's coming out on X1 as well.


Dude, its taken the Wii U 2 years to get to 7 million and you think it would sell 4 million in 4 months?

really?

the PS4 sold 10million+ consoles in 9 months and you think it will only sell 3 million with Destiny in SEptember and the holiday season around the corner?

how the hell do you come up with these predictions?



DD_Bwest said:
Yakuzaice said:
padib said:

If I were trolling I would have said 500m.

I will bet with DD_west we will see in time who is right. The PS4 might not follow the PS3 trends, because it may have been front-loaded. Destiny will sure be big but it's coming out on X1 as well.

The PS4's sales week ending Aug 23rd are 72% higher than the PS3 was the week ending Aug 25th 2007.  But yeah, I'm sure the PS4 will start falling behind dramatically any day now.

Also your bet with DD won't really show who is right, at least for our discussion.  The way it is setup you can still be wrong yet win the bet.  You expect the gap to narrow to 2 million, yet the gap could widen to 3,999,999 and still see you win the bet.


you really dont need to worry there is no way hes gonna win the bet lol the gap will be larger then 4 million by the end of sept lol and it wont look back.   This bet is almost cruel

Nothing cruel about winning a good old bet! I would wish you good luck but you won't need it



I'm not willing to bet on it but I think the PS4 to WiiU gap will extend to about 8 milion by the end of the year. 4million should be achieved by Destiny launch (that is if VGC sorts out its bad tracking)



probably



nice

padib said:

Correct the year, it's obvious we are talking about worldwide lifetime sales. But here, use this:

"I bet with padib that the PS4 will outsell the WiiU by 4million by the end of 2014 globally, lifetime. I win if it's true, he wins if it's not."


Soooo can I get a piece of this action? :3 in my case though, I have no particular opinion about WiiU sales, as I don't pay much attention to it in terms of market performance, so I'd like to keep my bet offer restricted to the sales of the PlayStation 4. Even 13 million seems- short of an Act of God obliterating shipments during the holidays- significantly lowballing, and so I would like to extend my own bet, with modified stakes to make things... Interesting.

-If the PS4 sells below 14 million by the end of 2014, even if it's 13,999,999 then you receive forty days of sig control.

-Between 14 million and 14,999,999 the bet is annulled, nobody wins.

-Between 15 million and 15,999,999 I receive fifteen days sig control.

-Between 16 million and 16,999,999 I receive thirty days.

-Between 17 million etc etc I get 45, and so on.

 

to summarize, you have a 2 million unit safety bubble where no consequences come to you, at the cost of a set victory condition of 40 days. But past that, the stakes grow higher and higher. If the PS4 DOES hit 18 million, I'd get sixty days, but that only happens if your prediction is waaaaaaaay off.

 

Winner to be determined end of Febuary, to allow for adjustments.

(I have to go back to work, will deal with any response in a few hours!)



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