But blaming the gamepad? It makes the Wii U the Wii U. you take that away it's a wannabe PS4. Face the facts pad-less sku wont happen and as I said to another person because a majority of your complaints were due to size. A smaller pad sku is a better possibility due to the New 3DS. I responed to your first post and I responded fairly. If you couldn't even read past the first line in my response then that's your fault. I would have expected a more intelligent response coming from someone with the name BeElite. Now be elite and respond with some dignity instead of smart ass troll comments like "Sorry cant take any of that serious after that massive load of BS." I can't even take you seriously if all you are going to do is end a post with "LMAO". This is not how people have intelligent conversation. 

Anint that generalizing to ? most posting or that have played with it are just hardcore nintendo fans.

 While their opinion is as biased as one can be whys should any one go by of that?

Gamepad makes the system, you don't have to use it for every game, i call it the hub controller lol, plus great for playing VC games off screen or just browsing the Internet and miiverse, and good if someone else is watching tv, I love it.

The real problem is the name and not showing their new console at E3 before it released. Nearly everyone, including myself, initially thought that the Wii U was an accessory to the Wii.

i bought mine specifically for nintendo games i cant do without for more than a few years. and i agree i hate the gamepad. i use the pro controller whenever possible. its a distraction more than anything, unless the game itself is on there.

Nice try you proved what you are with your inital post.  I wont waste time debating anythign with the likes of you.  If you wanted intelligent convo maybe you would have read what i posted the first time, not gotten on your high horse right of the bat.

You are right but Nintendo doesn't care. That's $180 that could be reinvested into our pockets, or their storage space or even better graphics! I mean, don't take it away for those who want one but sheesh, don't shove it down my throat either. Especially when the usage for it has been very minimal.

yahh pretty much that.  

Its just bad for gaming,  its just clunky and weird.  And all the things that are on the pad feel tacky add ons and none justify the need for the screen there.  Plus looking back and forth between tv and pad is annoying, take me out of the game.  

I don't waste my time with plebs either, so I guess our debate is over. I've wasted too much time with you. 

On a side note, your first post is full on rage. You can't come at me without looking at yourself. Good day sir or madam 

guess they are ok with the sales failure and  are to pig headed to do what could open up more sales potential.