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vivster on 28 August 2014

X1 already selling negative units? I thought that wouldn't happen before 2016.



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AZWification on 29 August 2014

Glad to see that these adjustments are being made! Thanks, ioi!



                
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Augen on 29 August 2014
loy310 said:

The 23th US and UK is up.

PS4 once again outsell XB1 in the USA globally.

PS4 North America  = 57,628

XB1 world wide = 53,207


I never expected it to be so lopsided.  Makes we wonder how big the gap will get in 2015.



Ninsect on 29 August 2014
mjk45 said:
Ninsect said:

How is it wishful thinking? It's based on common sense and some history.

You're right about WiiU being Nintendo's business but it is BAD business. That analogy doesn't work because I don't mean Nintendo is going to kill off WiiU and do nothing, what I am saying is that they will release a successor soon afterwards, hoping it will be more successful than its predecessor.

I think they will give it 2015 /16 to see how it goes when software is more settled in terms of both big hitters and hopefully more regular supply .

they run the risk if they introduce another console to early of alianating part of their base , there will be  some thoughts along the line of why should I invest in a new console with the spectre of another  close on the horizon.

Well, today they announced a "new" 3DS which alienates the fanbase.



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drake_tolu on 29 August 2014
BraLoD said:
drake_tolu said:

PS4: 10,100,000

Wii U: 7,100,000

XBOX ONE: 5,000,000

 

This year:

PS4: 5,600,000

XBOX ONE: 2,000,000

Wii U: 1,700,000


PS4 is still more than this. Because Sony said it was 4.2M at the end of 2013, so to reach 10.1M it needs 5.9M this year, what put it close to 3:1 with the XBO this year, that's widely known.


Nope. Sony have confirmed 4.2m by 28 Dec.



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Dark_Feanor on 29 August 2014

So, basicaly there are still XBox Ones in the market that were shipped before the end of March??

That is incredible!

Microsoft shipped at least 5.8mi by the end of June and 7 week later it barely reachs the Q1 shippments (20 weeks)?



Arkaign on 29 August 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
So, basicaly there are still XBox Ones in the market that were shipped before the end of March??

That is incredible!

Microsoft shipped at least 5.8mi by the end of June and 7 week later it barely reachs the Q1 shippments (20 weeks)?


Significant overtracking and overloading of the channels/distribution.

I've heard friends deployed in Germany that they see Day One X1s on sale with two games taped to the box for €399!

So we're talking a LOT of unsold X1s out there stuffing up warehouses and retailers.



Carl on 29 August 2014
ExplodingBlock said:

Also overtracked XB1 by .01m?


I just need to ask this.

Are we seriously at the point where we will be pointing out worldwide "overtracking" of 10,000 units?



                            

Zanten on 29 August 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
So, basicaly there are still XBox Ones in the market that were shipped before the end of March??

That is incredible!

Microsoft shipped at least 5.8mi by the end of June and 7 week later it barely reachs the Q1 shippments (20 weeks)?


Wouldn't those shipments (as it's the end of June) include shipments of the Kinectless SKU? Depending on how many Kinect-bundled units still didn't sell by the launch of the Kinectless Xbox One, it would probably lead to some bloated shipment numbers, as even stores that didn't sell all, or most of their 499$ Xbox Ones will have still stocked up on the cheaper 399$ version. The usual 'Store only restocks on shipment when they've sold through existing inventory' doesn't apply as much there.



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Dark_Feanor on 29 August 2014
Arkaign said:
Dark_Feanor said:
So, basicaly there are still XBox Ones in the market that were shipped before the end of March??

That is incredible!

Microsoft shipped at least 5.8mi by the end of June and 7 week later it barely reachs the Q1 shippments (20 weeks)?


Significant overtracking and overloading of the channels/distribution.

I've heard friends deployed in Germany that they see Day One X1s on sale with two games taped to the box for €399!

So we're talking a LOT of unsold X1s out there stuffing up warehouses and retailers.

So, why no generalised price drops and promotions?

Amazon.de has all sku at full prices, and Amazon.it has only the Kinect blundle with a 11% discount.

Based on NPD we have the XOne sold 1.1mi units by June in the USA, 1.6mi for PS4, adding another 200k and 250k respectively for July .

And with Japan as a dead zone for the PS4, if we have more than 3mi PS4 for Europe alone!!! 

If Europe is realy a 3 to 1 situation we should expect 1mi XOne until the end of June.

That is a total of 2.6mi XOne sold this year. 5.6 life time. (ignoring other markets). 

The only explanation is that Europe is realy, realy pissed of with the XOne... and I don´t see a way to change that, unless a massive price drop.