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binary solo on 30 August 2014
Dyarwolf said:
binary solo said:
Dyarwolf said:
 

It is a US game (if you mean by easily outselling EU and RoW). And it does sell better on Microsofts consoles.

           
Pos Game Platform Year Genre Publisher North America Europe Japan Rest of World Global
1 Madden NFL 25 X360 2013 Sports Electronic Arts 1.82 0.05 0.00 0.11 1.98
2 Madden NFL 25 PS3 2013 Sports Electronic Arts 1.40 0.03 0.00 0.09 1.52
3 Madden NFL 25 PS4 2013 Sports Electronic Arts 0.56 0.07 0.00 0.04 0.68
4 Madden NFL 25 XOne 2013 Sports Electronic Arts 0.51 0.03 0.00 0.03 0.57
5 Madden NFL 25 iOS N/A Sports N/A 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total 4.29 0.18 0.00 0.28 4.74

I don't think the XOne version will outsell the PS4, but the margins will be much closer compared to any other multiplat game.

Actually relative to install base Madden sells better on PS3 in North Ammerica by the look of your table. PS3:360 install base ratio is 1:1.6. PS3:360 Madden 25 sales is 1:1.3. therefore the attach rate for Madden is better on PS3. Dunno how it went through the generation with each Madden title but showing Madden 25 is not a good example of what you're trying to say.

So actually with a bigger install base, PS4 Madden sales should be significantly more than Xb one.

Yep, you're right. I'm fairly new so excuse me if I make an invalid point haha. So yes, that kind of changes from what I was thinking now, means PS4 should sell even at HIGHER margins (software) when Madden is released. At least I showed it IS a US game though.

Also I think it was a fine example. Madden has been released sequentially for 25 years. The games market/customer base is pretty saturated at this point. It's clear Madden sells best in the US EVERY year. Madden also sold best on the 360 every year compared to the PS3, but as you pointed out that isn't saying much.

It's a US game no doubt, and Madden Xb one bundle should help Xb one a wee bit. But it is not a mega franchise, so it won't do all that much. It seems to have a fanbase of about 4.5 million in North America, which is a good sized market, but not one of the really big ones. I am wondering why we're not seeing it on the pre-order chart though.



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Ninsect on 30 August 2014
jlmurph2 said:
wary-wallaroo said:


It's going to be DoA in those countries. You can already buy an X1 if you want one, it's not some hard task.

So there's going to be literally no boost?

Enough to keep it above WiiU for sure. But not for much else.



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HaloReach2014 on 30 August 2014

xb1 is extremely undertracked it should be above ps4 cuz if you played both systems you will no that xb1 is better it has more exclsuives and the controller is better



OfficerRaichu15 on 30 August 2014
HaloReach2014 said:
xb1 is extremely undertracked it should be above ps4 cuz if you played both systems you will no that xb1 is better it has more exclsuives and the controller is better





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HaloReach2014 on 30 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
HaloReach2014 said:
xb1 is extremely undertracked it should be above ps4 cuz if you played both systems you will no that xb1 is better it has more exclsuives and the controller is better




um no is this a joke?



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OfficerRaichu15 on 30 August 2014
HaloReach2014 said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
HaloReach2014 said:
xb1 is extremely undertracked it should be above ps4 cuz if you played both systems you will no that xb1 is better it has more exclsuives and the controller is better




um no is this a joke?

xbox one and wii u are already proven to be overtracked(and im sure it isnt doing amazing numbers ww)



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

HaloReach2014 on 30 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
HaloReach2014 said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
HaloReach2014 said:
xb1 is extremely undertracked it should be above ps4 cuz if you played both systems you will no that xb1 is better it has more exclsuives and the controller is better




um no is this a joke?

xbox one and wii u are already proven to be ivertracked(and im sure it isnt doing amazing numbers ww)

is that overtracked or undertracked i cant read it has a i instead a normal letter



OfficerRaichu15 on 30 August 2014

Its "o" sadly I accidently put "i."

Back on topic; there is a thread that has data to show they are overtracked(especially xbox one in america)

here it is

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=189226&page=1#96



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

blackmages on 30 August 2014
CGI-Quality said:

August 23rd

3
The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
Sony Computer Entertainment America, Adventure
115,397 1,024,286 4

 

August 16th

2
The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
Sony Computer Entertainment America, Adventure
105,832 908,889 3

 

Never mind the fact that the digital version isn't included, a VGC poster actually had the audacity to tell me that TLOU:R wasn't hangin' on strong.

it isn't hanging. it's only up because of the japanese release.



blackmages on 30 August 2014
CGI-Quality said:
blackmages said:

it isn't hanging. it's only up because of the japanese release.

Thus, what you're saying is, the majority of this week's retail sales come from Japan? Hmmm... 115k-30k = 85K. Nope, doesn't make sense. 

Beyond that, how should a remastered game perform? What are the guidelines?

I was pretty clear, the number only went up because of the japanese release.