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Baalzamon said:
It has everything to do with race, and nothing to do with the community, the riots, or anything else like that.

All shootings are bad, period, but when a white cop shoots a black kid, it is a perfect time for equal rights groups to pounce on it. Other than a few quick stories, there is nothing to be pounced on when a black shoots a white, however. It just isn't really any more significant than any shooting, which generally gets no more than a few minutes on the news.

There wouldn't have been riots without the majority-black community being pressured by a majority-white police force, as part of a large cycle of de facto segregation and white flight in the St. Louis suburbs.



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DialgaMarine said:
Because apparently white people have jobs and lives they focus too much on to lose their collective shit over something that, while unfortunate, isn't that great of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Hell, I really don't know. My condolences to the family of the deceased. R.I.P.

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DonFerrari said:
 

You basically answered yourself with prejudice. I have no problem with policies that Help poor people achieve better competition for opportunities against rich guys. But that have nothing to do with race, why should a rich black have access to these privileges and a poor white don't? Are swe saying a poor white have better chances and opportunities than a rich black?

And you ignored I wasn't singling black civil rights fighters, but feminists, gayzists, atheists, etc.

I am aware of profilling and that black officers also profile black, is he racist against himself? Most cases I see in profilling is towards attire and attitude (gangsta and hip hop kind) than pure color. I never saw no one profilling a black guy in suit going to work or church. Usually the profilling comes from black guy being in a majorly white neighborhood and whites on black.

But yes, let's reduce all towards race and hate.

"So a rich black person deserves it more than a poor white person?


What? I have literally never said this, or even implied it. I obviously mean poor black people (there's a lot.) Do you think every single person who is black gets scholarships? The reality is that race and class are somewhat related, with poor communities usually having a high minority population. Nowadays, more and more white people are becoming low income and this should be acknowledged more, yes. I agree. I actually said so earlier in this thread.
And even if a rich black person gets a scholarship over someone that deserves it, that has more to do with the person being rich. Rich people in generally snag scholarships they dont need due to having access to things like extra lessons and better equipment, and also being able to wave their money around. Like you said, not everything is about race.

“You ignored…”


No, I didn’t. I just know it’s true for all of those groups too. “special treatment” in all of those cases was to become equal, not superior. Gay rights parades are to ask for equal rights, feminism is/was about getting things like equal pay etc. It would be nice to say “everyone is equal so let’s stop all of this” but it would make more sense to wait until everyone is actually treated equally. No, not only in the law.

“Is he racist against himself?”


Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: And here is another example where the law means nothing. Generations of being told negative things about your really affects how that group views itself. Low self-esteem and believing what prejudice people say is also a huge part of racism that needs to be tackled.

“I never saw anyone profiling someone black going to church/in a suit…”


Uh…..so what? Are you saying the only things that happen are the things you see? Obviously people who don’t look suspicious get racially profiled. That phenomenon happens so much they made a term for it. It’s called, you know. Racial Profiling. I could say racism doesn’t exist because I’ve never experienced it myself, but that would be silly. Heck, as an example, Oprah was shopping at a street in Europe famous for being really expensive. She wanted a bag but the person at the cashier told her she probably wouldn’t be able to afford it, just by looking at her. OPRAH.



BMaker11 said:

How often are white kids profiled by a black police officer, then get shot while unarmed? And then, how often is that officer not charged with anything?

You want to know why there isn't as much media coverage? Because the wrong that was committed in Utah doesn't happen at nearly the same rate. And it doesn't have to just be homicide. Stop and frisks resulting in physical battery, where the vast majority of people who are stopped are unarmed minorities who are just minding their business. I read a story one time where a straight A high school student getting off the metro on the way to play in a high school basketball game was stopped because he looked "suspicious" due to having a scarf covering his face: it was really cold in Philly that day. And because he was just trying to get to the game and didn't have time for the police annoyance, he literally had his balls ripped off.

http://mic.com/articles/79923/cop-stops-and-frisks-black-teen-and-literally-ruptures-his-testicles

Or how about when the whole "Stand Your Ground" law came into play, allowing Zimmerman to shoot Martin to "stand his ground", yet in the very same state when a black woman didn't even shoot someone, but instead, fired a warning shot, in her own home, to get her violent husband out of her house (someone who hadn't lived there in like two months) who had attacked her and threated to kill her. She was instantly arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and was facing a 20 year sentence. It wasn't until after months of litigation that it was overturned, but she is still on house arrest (remember, she was just defending her home) and now the Florida Attorney General is trying to re-prosecute, this time for a 60 year sentence

As someone else has pointed out, there was another case where the police beat a man, then sued him for assault for getting blood on their uniform. There's media coverage and all kinds of outrage because the black community is tired of being seen as a threat just for being a young black male. Or in the latter case, not having the law applied consistently when it comes to a black person (in a case where no one died or was even injured, mind you)

Even in the Zimmerman case, they tried to make it seem like Martin deserved it, by showing pictures of him throwing up hand signs and saying he had a little weed in his system i.e. he was a thug. So even when a kid dies, he's still profiled as dangerous.

Now, flip the script. You got white kids shooting up schools and theaters. How does the media portray them? As all around good and well mannered kids who did well in school; and how nobody saw this happening: a tragic "fallen hero" story. White kids that are proven dangerous are looked on as fondly as possible; black kids that are shown to be harmless are looked at as thugs and gangsters.

The reason there's so much coverage in one case over the other is because there has reached a break point on the black side. The black cop shooting the white kid is very much random in comparison to how often it happens to young black men. I'm not saying that it was right in any manner, what happened in Utah, but I will pose a question: had it been a white kid with his hands up, do you think Darren Wilson would have shot him?

And for the case with Dillon Taylor, the officer was wearing a camera. We'll have to wait and see how that scenario will play out, but we know the officer will have some modicum of responsibility, since there's video evidence. And if the studies about police with cameras on them are to be believed, then officers are more hesistant to use more controversial means of solving a problem when there's video.

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I was thinking the same thing.



I caught wind of this story when it first happened and I knew it would get no media coverage. Right now the media is in the business of black outrage. This story doesn’t fit the current narrative. There’s a double standard there for sure. Everything about this story would’ve been reported if the victim were black and the officer white. The victim was a probation violator whom had a warrant out for his arrest. He’d committed a robbery and threatened to kill an eye witness. It’s said that the reason he didn’t comply with the officer’s orders is because he had earbuds in and couldn’t hear the officer’s commands. Were the races reversed we’d have this story on the front page of every paper and news station.

Haters and race baiters like Al “The Charlatan” Sharpton thrive on these scenarios. Sharpton was front and center after the Ferguson incident but he’s been silent day after day while black gangs have turned Chicago into a warzone. But it’s not just on bull**** Al. The people over at Fox News and MSNBC are as bad as he is. Fox thinks that any killing of a minority is always because said minority had it coming. They’ll go back and find things like that minority using the N-word on his or her Facebook page as a reason that person may have been violent. MSNBC will always proclaim that a white person pulling the trigger on a minority had racist intent. Both channels sow the racial divide and sit back and profit from it.

Furthermore, I can tell you that I’ve seen very disheartening posts throughout all of this. Whites think that the media is always on the black man’s side and want to vilify the white man at every turn. You ask how come white on black crime gets so much attention while the inverse does not? I’ll ask why missing minorities get almost zero coverage in the media. See, they’re in it for the ratings. They believe that everyone can feel sorry for a missing, pretty white woman. No one cares about a black single mom with hairweave. So yeah, it works both ways.
Finally, I can tell you that the hardest part of all of this has been seeing how we’ve all pretty much used this unrest to make us hate each other more. My wife, a white conservative married to a left-leaning centrist, admitted to me that she’s profiling blacks more and more lately because of what’s going on. Yesterday she saw a black guy in a BMW parked across the street and assumed he was a drug dealer. I told her that the lady who lives in that house is dating a cop and that guy could be the cop. That hurt me a bit.

What also hurts me is how blacks think that every black person is innocent and can do no wrong when things like this happen. WRONG! Know the facts before taking a side. My Father In Law is a white retired police officer. He worked in the worst part of the Palm Beach County for 25 years. That part is mostly black. He was as fair as they come and can tell you that there are good people in that city and there are bad. But I see black people posting comments that all cops are bad and most of them deserve to die. My question to them is this: How is it that I (a 32 years old black man) have never been handcuffed, battered, or beaten by the police? I’ve been pulled over a handful of times and I’ve been profiled. I’ve also complied and stayed calm each time. Look, I’m not saying all cops are good or bad. I’m also not saying that all beatings are justified. But I’m saying that some people need to realize that their actions sometimes lead to these altercations.



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The Micheal Brown case blew up on wshh and other social media websites and caused a riot, it escalated out of control way to quickly in a community and tribe of people who constanly are oppressed. Not to mention it was one incident compared to the dozens that happen yearly that are ignored so cry me a fucking river. And what the fuck is with this white people victim bullshit? They pretty much killed everyone and took their shit and virtually rule the world.

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Ostro said:

Why don't police (wo)men learn to shoot arms and legs btw? Always killing people when they suspiciously move, easy to say it was necessary.
I get that in the US shooting and guns are alright to defend yourself but, really, tone it down a bit. Mistakes happen but nobody should be shot to death instantly.
I don't really care about who gets shot or where or what they've done. If you really are in danger, disarm or k.o. the suspect. Having the gun at hand is a great advantage compared to "suspicious" movements that are necessary for the suspect to grab a weapon and attack first. Just shouting "police! stand still or I'll shoot!" (if at all) doesn't work. People might even move and look suspicious because they panic when hearing words like that or looking at the police and guns. Why kill them right away instead of aiming at extremeties when they could be innocent? When I think about it I could end up thinking it's because you don't want to pay for their lives when it turns out they were innocent and you made them be handicapped or prisons are too full/expensive..

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because this isnt the movies, its real life. and in real life its incredibly hard to shoot accurately especially when the target is moving, and you are nervous and have your adrenaline going. You are tought to shot center mass, and thats hard enough as it is (as shown by police horrible hit perentage, less than 20% iirc). targetting limbs is a recipe for desaster (not to mention law suit, becuase the officer was specifically trying to injury and maim the target)