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If does then i'd be pissed as fuck. 4 years is more than enough to develop Zelda, no matter how ambitious it is.



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Soundwave said:
JWeinCom said:
Nintendo announces a Pokemon fighting game for the arcades in Japan= Zelda will be delayed.

Because fuck logic.


More like many people were wondering if Zelda wasn't going to be delayed anyway, and now looking at their potential 2015 roster, they have a pretty full potential lineup even without Zelda. It's open to speculation. It's not like they absolutely *need* the game for next year now. 


he's saying that you think LoZ is being delayed because we have announcement of an arcade game (though it should be a wii u title later) which is basically means that now its up for debate? (in other words what brings up LoZ in all of this???)

I mean look at your line up in the opening, Nintendo is obviously going to announce a couple more games next year for 2015, so does that automatically  mean for every game confirmed for 2015 that another title is pushed back another year? There is FE x SMT that should be releasing next year, so i guesx that means Kirby must be getting delayed?

C'mon now :'-(



tbone51 said:
Soundwave said:
JWeinCom said:
Nintendo announces a Pokemon fighting game for the arcades in Japan= Zelda will be delayed.

Because fuck logic.


More like many people were wondering if Zelda wasn't going to be delayed anyway, and now looking at their potential 2015 roster, they have a pretty full potential lineup even without Zelda. It's open to speculation. It's not like they absolutely *need* the game for next year now. 


he's saying that you think LoZ is being delayed because we have announcement of an arcade game (though it should be a wii u title later) which is basically means that now its up for debate? (in other words what brings up LoZ in all of this???)

I mean look at your line up in the opening, Nintendo is obviously going to announce a couple more games next year for 2015, so does that automatically  mean for every game confirmed for 2015 that another title is pushed back another year? There is FE x SMT that should be releasing next year, so i guesx that means Kirby must be getting delayed?

C'mon now :'-(

I don't think SMT x Fire Emblem is coming in 2015. I'm not even sure if its coming to Wii U to be honest. That could one of the games switched over somewhere else. That just seems to cry out as a project that would get 3-4x higher sales were it to be released on a handheld platform, especially seeing Fire Emblem Awakening's sales on the 3DS. 

It was after the fact, but we found out that several GameCube projects for example got purposely shifted to Wii, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Fire Emblem. No doubt Nintendo saw the writing on the wall for the GameCube platform. It wouldn't be much of a surprise if a similar thing happens to the Wii U which is selling even worse. 



spemanig said:
I don't think so. I don't think we'll see Star Fox U or any 3D Mario next year. I think a Mario Kart expansion will come this holiday instead. They wanted to push MK8 throughout 2014. Can't see how else that can do that.

Also don't see Zelda U coming out on any handheld anything. Not with the way Nintendo budgets their handhelds. No way they'll make a handheld powerful enough to play Wii U like games at $200 or less, and no way will they try to sell a $250 handheld again after the 3DS.

I don't think we'll have six months in 2015 without a major 1st party AAA release in the West. I also can't see Xenoblade coming out too soon, though. Are you mixing japanese and western release dates? Some of this doesn't make sense. We won't see Xenoblade until the end of next year in my opinion.

Wait. I see what you're saying.


I'd like to point out that I called it literally minutes before it happened!!!!!!!!!!!



spemanig said:
spemanig said:
I don't think so. I don't think we'll see Star Fox U or any 3D Mario next year. I think a Mario Kart expansion will come this holiday instead. They wanted to push MK8 throughout 2014. Can't see how else that can do that.

Also don't see Zelda U coming out on any handheld anything. Not with the way Nintendo budgets their handhelds. No way they'll make a handheld powerful enough to play Wii U like games at $200 or less, and no way will they try to sell a $250 handheld again after the 3DS.

I don't think we'll have six months in 2015 without a major 1st party AAA release in the West. I also can't see Xenoblade coming out too soon, though. Are you mixing japanese and western release dates? Some of this doesn't make sense. We won't see Xenoblade until the end of next year in my opinion.

Wait. I see what you're saying.


I'd like to point out that I called it literally minutes before it happened!!!!!!!!!!!





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Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
I think you over-estimate Nintendo's overall software strategy, and your opinion that Fusion is the future. Zelda will launch and release whenever the team can finish it, and when it can make the most money. Most likely, that's Christmas 2015. If it's delayed, it's because it's not ready. It will have nothing to do with wanting to TP it.


I think if Wii U sales drop back to a poor baseline after the usual holiday bump this fall, I think Nintendo is going to kinda "call it" with the Wii U ... as in it's a dead man walking as a console. 

A smart company knows how to manage its assets properly, wasting the most expensive Nintendo game ever made on the lowest Nintendo userbase ever (outside of the Virtual Boy) is probably not something Nintendo is eagerly keen on. 

If the Wii U looks like a sinking ship no matter what Nintendo throws at it (and they should know for sure after next year's holiday push -- if Mario Kart, 3D World, Smash, and amiibo still can't get it to sell well outside of short burts, then Zelda U sure as hell is not going to), then I think Nintendo will start to look at this as a strong option. 

1.5-2 million even in extra sales is nothing to scoff at, that probably covers the entire game's dev budget, leaving the rest of the sales as pure profit. 

They would, but only if Wii U already had its own Zelda and if the next home console was closer.  Wii U will get its own Zelda.  The next 3D Mario has a better chance of being cross-gen.



Soundwave said:
tbone51 said:
Soundwave said:

 

I don't think SMT x Fire Emblem is coming in 2015. I'm not even sure if its coming to Wii U to be honest. That could one of the games switched over somewhere else. That just seems to cry out as a project that would get 3-4x higher sales were it to be released on a handheld platform, especially seeing Fire Emblem Awakening's sales on the 3DS. 

It was after the fact, but we found out that several GameCube projects for example got purposely shifted to Wii, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, Fire Emblem. No doubt Nintendo saw the writing on the wall for the GameCube platform. It wouldn't be much of a surprise if a similar thing happens to the Wii U which is selling even worse. 


No, FE x SMT is definitely still coming to wiiu, in a Q+A during S.T.E.A.M event, the developers stated that the game was on schedule, unless they straight out lied. It'll come to japan either this holiday or next year (im waiting on TGS).

As for the GCN Games, all of those franchises were already on GCN, and Paper Mario + FE didnt come out at launch, so its not like it was a smart move to puf on GCN if the Wii would of been out.



Everyone knows that you shouldn't release more than one game per month so unless one of the other games is delayed I see no chance of Zelad U coming in 2015.



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Soundwave said:
JWeinCom said:
Nintendo announces a Pokemon fighting game for the arcades in Japan= Zelda will be delayed.

Because fuck logic.


More like many people were wondering if Zelda wasn't going to be delayed anyway, and now looking at their potential 2015 roster, they have a pretty full potential lineup even without Zelda. It's open to speculation. It's not like they absolutely *need* the game for next year now. 

I don't even think Zelda U really plays that integral of a role in the Wii U's ultimate fate ... that will largely be decided before. If MK8, 3D World, NSMBU, and Smash U can't get the system to sell above GameCube levels, then really Zelda U isn't going to either. 

Yes holidays generally mean bigger sales, but moving it into the launch window of a new Nintendo handheld launch would also likely buoy its net sales for 30-60% extra if not more. 

It's a logical scenario, much like moving Twilight Princess to Wii did make a lot of sense, mind you Nintendo at that time had no idea the Wii was even going to be such a huge seller and there were a lot of people initially upset by that decision, but really in the long run it just made way more financial sense. 


Nothing you've said, particularly in the OP, provides any logical reason for a delay.  Of course, any game can be delayed, but you've provided no reason to suspect that it will be.



I agree.
Nintendo delays EVERYTHING these days, and an open world HD Zelda will take a long time to complete to their OCD level of polish.