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FATALITY on 27 August 2014
tripenfall said:

Not sure if serious


of course hes not



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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 August 2014
Mad55 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I guess you believe Watchdogs and the Last Assassins Creed were next gen didn't you? What would you consider Assassins Creed unity since its not coming onto the last gen consoles? Notice the difference in animation, realism and gameplay fidelity? Yeah. I guess I can't just say that.

Of course they were next gen, They realsed on Xbox one and Ps4 as well as last gen so they were current and last gen. Unity looks incredible, but alot of those things could be done on last gen, though they wouldn't look as great. 


Yeah...lets just end this you obviously have no clue what next gen means. You're taking offense to facts as if they are meant to take a shot at Tomb Raider but in truth it will be behind Uncharted (and not in any small way). No in engine cinematic and gameplay, but rather cgi and slightly above last gen graphics. Unity could not be created last gen. What you've seen out of it was in engine graphics.  That engine is completely new and next gen. These are not educated statements.



Mad55 on 27 August 2014
DonFerrari said:
Mad55 said:
DonFerrari said:

@ bolded, Yes they do saying something based on preconcieved notions of what other devs did without knowing much about how this specific game is being made fully is ignorant honestly. Square could have one team doing the last gen versions while the main team focuses on making the current gen version the best they can. Theres alot of variables that could be at play so to say that it will be a ways behind uncarted 4 is ridiculous to me. Though im not saying it will happen either way, its just the fact that you think it will be one way based off not knowing how they have their dev teams working is crazy to me. 

Have you been sleeping last gen? ND is the top dev and in graphics department they are leaps and bonds ahead of others in consoles. Compare UC3 or TLOUR to TR and it is clear. And about console power and CD credentials they made a 1080p60fps on ps4 and 900p-1080p30fps on X1. Do you have any doubt ps4 is stronger than x1? Or do you think ND will forget how to make games?? Greater dev in stronger HW vs less talented and less powerfull HW (won't discuss how much for either because they are either opinion or already know, the importance is that both are pretty real) it is a no context.

Yes we don't have much info on the games, just credentials. So using Inertial Law (in the absence of an exterior force a body keep it inertia) if what happens is a continuation of past trends (and we don't have any evidence to oppose it) then we know the outcome. So in the absence of evidence the claim that must wait is that TR could look better than UC4 not the negative of the possibilitie.

The same for the OP if no evidence of x1 passing PS4 exist he should wait before claiming it not us to rule it out.

If we are just going to play the everything is possible card Ps4 could sell a billion and UC4 be 8k resolution. Chances of any of them happen is zero, so why would I ask people to wait and see if everyone knows (or at least should, if don't then better ask for euthanasia because of brain death)???

You posted all that and I can still just say you havent seen the new tomb raider yet. Also you said " have you een sleeping lst gen", Um did you read my post before you, I said I love Naughty dog. 


As I said if going by anything is possible card you haven't seem 8kp120fps. Or I could say Captain Toads could be the most realistic graphic of this gen.

And my point about been sleep is by not seeing the difference between ND and CD not about hating one.

But if your argumentation is this weak I rest my case.

You had not point even starting a conversation with me if your gonna post stuff like that. My argument is pretty solid.



coolguy on 27 August 2014

Never going to happen the only way it will happen if the xbone1 will be 199 by then



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Mad55 on 27 August 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mad55 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I guess you believe Watchdogs and the Last Assassins Creed were next gen didn't you? What would you consider Assassins Creed unity since its not coming onto the last gen consoles? Notice the difference in animation, realism and gameplay fidelity? Yeah. I guess I can't just say that.

Of course they were next gen, They realsed on Xbox one and Ps4 as well as last gen so they were current and last gen. Unity looks incredible, but alot of those things could be done on last gen, though they wouldn't look as great. 


Yeah...lets just end this you obviously have no clue what next gen means. You're taking offense to facts as if they are meant to take a shot at Tomb Raider but in truth it will be behind Uncharted (and not in any small way). No in engine cinematic and gameplay, but rather cgi and slightly above last gen graphics. Unity could not be created last gen. What you've seen out of it was in engine graphics.  That engine is completely new and next gen. These are not educated statements.

@ bolded Lol no you don't know what the word means the way you flaunt the word around. I said a lot of the things unity does could be done on ps3 and xbox not all of them and just because its a new engine doesn't mean its previous iteration culdn't do some of what it did. Also I never took offense I just stated my piece same as you. 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 August 2014
Mad55 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Yeah...lets just end this you obviously have no clue what next gen means. You're taking offense to facts as if they are meant to take a shot at Tomb Raider but in truth it will be behind Uncharted (and not in any small way). No in engine cinematic and gameplay, but rather cgi and slightly above last gen graphics. Unity could not be created last gen. What you've seen out of it was in engine graphics.  That engine is completely new and next gen. These are not educated statements.

@ bolded Lol no you don't know what the word means the way you flaunt the word around. I said a lot of the things unity does could be done on ps3 and xbox not all of them and just because its a new engine doesn't mean its previous iteration culdn't do some of what it did. Also I never took offense I just stated my piece same as you. 

Of course I know what next gen means. A next gen game is a title that exemplifies the potential of the new gen opposed to the previous one. Assassins Creed, The new Batman, Uncharted 4, The Order, Gears 4 and Halo 5 will all showcase that. Exclusives will pump out more love for the home gamers but next gen will be no different on either side of the fence for those who have next gen consoles. There is a reason third parties were demanding certain specs out of the new consoles. There is a reason WItcher 3 is not on the Wii U. Outside of lack of consumer demand. Nintendo listened to no third party requests which have they had been demanding since 2011-2012 (to the last of my recollection). Third parties are very serious about next gen potential and they are holding back for no one this gen. Epic even said Nintendo shouldn't even use Unreal 4, they should just stick with three because in all honesty they aren't going to get much out of 4. Dick thing to say but by next gen standards they are right.



DonFerrari on 28 August 2014

On topic on August 16th Ps4 NA numbers are greater than X1 WW with no noticeable release.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 28 August 2014
Mad55 said:
DonFerrari said:
Mad55 said:
DonFerrari said:

@ bolded, Yes they do saying something based on preconcieved notions of what other devs did without knowing much about how this specific game is being made fully is ignorant honestly. Square could have one team doing the last gen versions while the main team focuses on making the current gen version the best they can. Theres alot of variables that could be at play so to say that it will be a ways behind uncarted 4 is ridiculous to me. Though im not saying it will happen either way, its just the fact that you think it will be one way based off not knowing how they have their dev teams working is crazy to me. 

Have you been sleeping last gen? ND is the top dev and in graphics department they are leaps and bonds ahead of others in consoles. Compare UC3 or TLOUR to TR and it is clear. And about console power and CD credentials they made a 1080p60fps on ps4 and 900p-1080p30fps on X1. Do you have any doubt ps4 is stronger than x1? Or do you think ND will forget how to make games?? Greater dev in stronger HW vs less talented and less powerfull HW (won't discuss how much for either because they are either opinion or already know, the importance is that both are pretty real) it is a no context.

Yes we don't have much info on the games, just credentials. So using Inertial Law (in the absence of an exterior force a body keep it inertia) if what happens is a continuation of past trends (and we don't have any evidence to oppose it) then we know the outcome. So in the absence of evidence the claim that must wait is that TR could look better than UC4 not the negative of the possibilitie.

The same for the OP if no evidence of x1 passing PS4 exist he should wait before claiming it not us to rule it out.

If we are just going to play the everything is possible card Ps4 could sell a billion and UC4 be 8k resolution. Chances of any of them happen is zero, so why would I ask people to wait and see if everyone knows (or at least should, if don't then better ask for euthanasia because of brain death)???

You posted all that and I can still just say you havent seen the new tomb raider yet. Also you said " have you een sleeping lst gen", Um did you read my post before you, I said I love Naughty dog. 


As I said if going by anything is possible card you haven't seem 8kp120fps. Or I could say Captain Toads could be the most realistic graphic of this gen.

And my point about been sleep is by not seeing the difference between ND and CD not about hating one.

But if your argumentation is this weak I rest my case.

You had not point even starting a conversation with me if your gonna post stuff like that. My argument is pretty solid.

Understood... Opinion = airtight argument = fact for you. The anything can happen aint even an argument.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

bouboumorveu on 28 August 2014

Hard to find the price for an inferior hardware. maybe 199$ is xone price to equal PS4 sales.



Mad55 on 28 August 2014
DonFerrari said:
Mad55 said:
DonFerrari said:
Mad55 said:
DonFerrari said:

@ bolded, Yes they do saying something based on preconcieved notions of what other devs did without knowing much about how this specific game is being made fully is ignorant honestly. Square could have one team doing the last gen versions while the main team focuses on making the current gen version the best they can. Theres alot of variables that could be at play so to say that it will be a ways behind uncarted 4 is ridiculous to me. Though im not saying it will happen either way, its just the fact that you think it will be one way based off not knowing how they have their dev teams working is crazy to me. 

Have you been sleeping last gen? ND is the top dev and in graphics department they are leaps and bonds ahead of others in consoles. Compare UC3 or TLOUR to TR and it is clear. And about console power and CD credentials they made a 1080p60fps on ps4 and 900p-1080p30fps on X1. Do you have any doubt ps4 is stronger than x1? Or do you think ND will forget how to make games?? Greater dev in stronger HW vs less talented and less powerfull HW (won't discuss how much for either because they are either opinion or already know, the importance is that both are pretty real) it is a no context.

Yes we don't have much info on the games, just credentials. So using Inertial Law (in the absence of an exterior force a body keep it inertia) if what happens is a continuation of past trends (and we don't have any evidence to oppose it) then we know the outcome. So in the absence of evidence the claim that must wait is that TR could look better than UC4 not the negative of the possibilitie.

The same for the OP if no evidence of x1 passing PS4 exist he should wait before claiming it not us to rule it out.

If we are just going to play the everything is possible card Ps4 could sell a billion and UC4 be 8k resolution. Chances of any of them happen is zero, so why would I ask people to wait and see if everyone knows (or at least should, if don't then better ask for euthanasia because of brain death)???

You posted all that and I can still just say you havent seen the new tomb raider yet. Also you said " have you een sleeping lst gen", Um did you read my post before you, I said I love Naughty dog. 


As I said if going by anything is possible card you haven't seem 8kp120fps. Or I could say Captain Toads could be the most realistic graphic of this gen.

And my point about been sleep is by not seeing the difference between ND and CD not about hating one.

But if your argumentation is this weak I rest my case.

You had not point even starting a conversation with me if your gonna post stuff like that. My argument is pretty solid.

Understood... Opinion = airtight argument = fact for you. The anything can happen aint even an argument.

This is exactly why you may as well have never started with me lol.